Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

It makes sense to me. I've long noticed how we tend to suffer one thing at a time, as if what we are suffering protects us against other diseases.

My mother is an example of what I mean. She was one of 13 children in her large family and when young suffered rheumatic fever which caused her heart to be damaged. At 64 that heart was failing with valve disease and a replacement heart valve gave her 14 more years to 78. At no time did she ever have any form of cancer.

All the other 12 children died of cancer in their early 70s and so did their mother**. It appears my mothers damaged heart condition prevented her alone from suffering that fate.

I remember how what made AIDS so puzzling when it first appeared was the way victims could suffer multiple illnesses simultaneously.

** Their father died earlier from the effects of being gassed in WW1.
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It also makes sense as some colds are caused by corona viruses.

Common human coronaviruses, including types 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1, usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold. Most people get infected with one or more of these viruses at some point in their lives.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html

This has been mentioned from very early in the whole story. With varying degrees of credence.

 

[POLLY]

Asteroid from the asteroid belt?

asteroid belt doesn't exist

 

[flecc]

asteroid belt doesn't exist

100% Bullcrap.
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[Danidl]

100% Bullcrap.
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..is this evidence of transmission and I think a 3 week incubation period?. If flecc turns Zombie, we are all doomed, doomed I say!.

 

[oldgroaner]

The Blond Wurzel Gummidge impersonator calls for a day of relection
One year ago today, Britain entered lockdown after days of prevarication and delay – it would set the stage for a government response which was catastrophically inadequate, and contributed to over 125,000 deaths.

What he should have done was resign and wait to be arrested

 

[oldgroaner]

..is this evidence of transmission and I think a 3 week incubation period?. If flecc turns Zombie, we are all doomed, doomed I say!.

100% Male Bovine Excrement.
Oh god no , it's spawned a variant already
Is there a vaccine for Pollyism2021 yet?

 

[oldgroaner]

asteroid belt doesn't exist

What's holding them rocks up in the sky then?
Braces?

 

[POLLY]

The Blond Wurzel Gummidge impersonator calls for a day of relection
One year ago today, Britain entered lockdown after days of prevarication and delay – it would set the stage for a government response which was catastrophically inadequate, and contributed to over 125,000 deaths.

What he should have done was resign and wait to be arrested

No one has died from COVID-19

 

[flecc]

No one has died from COVID-19

They've just died with it.
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[Zlatan]

Polly is getting more demonstrative.... and convinced.

 

[oldgroaner]

This is very interesting
(Reuters) - Pfizer Inc has started an early-stage U.S. trial of an oral COVID-19 antiviral therapy that could be prescribed to patients at the first sign of infection, the company said on Tuesday.

 

[oyster]

This is very interesting
(Reuters) - Pfizer Inc has started an early-stage U.S. trial of an oral COVID-19 antiviral therapy that could be prescribed to patients at the first sign of infection, the company said on Tuesday.

Seems to read that the USA's FDA has not approved dexamethasone. Not even as an emergency treatment.

 

[oldgroaner]

No one has died from COVID-19

No you have to get close to contract it and die, if you are miles From it you are pretty safe

 

[oldgroaner]

Seems to read that the USA's FDA has not approved dexamethasone. Not even as an emergency treatment.

I thought that too, but failed to figure out why, would they really do that for political reasons?

 

[oyster]

Didn't at least one person here suggest she was speaking some sort of truth?

A key member of the legal team that sought to steal the 2020 election for Donald Trump is defending herself against a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit by arguing that “no reasonable person” could have mistaken her wild claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact.

In a motion to dismiss a complaint by the large US-based voting machine company Dominion, lawyers for Sidney Powell argued that elaborate conspiracies she laid out on television and radio last November while simultaneously suing to overturn election results in four states constituted legally protected first amendment speech.

 

[Nev]

And back to the real world.. my lad had his AZ vaccine yesterday and had a rather unpleasant night of it.. 39 Degree temperatures, pains in all joints etc but since subsided. Now he is well used to discomfort, and he puts this night into the bad category.

A neighbour of mine (same age and same GP practice as me) had the AZ vaccine half an hour later than I did a week last Saturday. I saw him a couple of days ago and asked him if he had any side effects from the vaccine. He said he came down with flu like symptoms later on the Saturday and he had a really bad night, head ache, high temp etc. Next day he was still feeling bad, had the heating on in the house full blast was wearing a coat and hat and was still shivering.

The following day (Monday) the symptoms had more or less gone, still felt weak and very sore arm. He had Covid a couple of months ago and other that a slight cough he had no symptoms at all. He said the vaccine was far worse than actually catching disease.

He is worried about having the second jab but said he probably will still go for it, he wondered if having had Covid it might mean you get worse side effects from the vaccine.

 

[oyster]

A neighbour of mine (same age and same GP practice as me) had the AZ vaccine half an hour later than I did a week last Saturday. I saw him a couple of days ago and asked him if he had any side effects from the vaccine. He said he came down with flu like symptoms later on the Saturday and he had a really bad night, head ache, high temp etc. Next day he was still feeling bad, had the heating on in the house full blast was wearing a coat and hat and was still shivering.

The following day (Monday) the symptoms had more or less gone, still felt weak and very sore arm. He had Covid a couple of months ago and other that a slight cough he had no symptoms at all. He said the vaccine was far worse than actually catching disease.

He is worried about having the second jab but said he probably will still go for it, he wondered if having had Covid it might mean you get worse side effects from the vaccine.

I have many times seen it claimed that the AZ is worse if you have had Covid-19. But the second dose is (usually) less bad than the first. Not sure if that follows if you have had Covid-19.

(But second dose of PB is worse than the first.)

All subject to revision!

 

[Nev]

Guns are quite easy to obtain for criminal purposes.

Don't you need to have contacts with criminal networks to get something like a hand gun together with the right ammunition for it? If you were to say to me here is £1k go out and get me a hand gun with ammo I would have no idea where to start, and I would be rather surprised if many people on this forum would either.

 

[Danidl]

I have many times seen it claimed that the AZ is worse if you have had Covid-19. But the second dose is (usually) less bad than the first. Not sure if that follows if you have had Covid-19.

(But second dose of PB is worse than the first.)

All subject to revision!

My daughter who might actually know about these things, suggested that if the immune system is primed, the response is stronger. Now my son is constantly fighting infections and so he got a strong reaction. Someone with a previous CV infection will have a similar response. Incidentally getting Covid twice is not impossible or even unusual.... Evidence around

 

[Woosh]

A key member of the legal team that sought to steal the 2020 election for Donald Trump is defending herself against a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit by arguing that “no reasonable person” could have mistaken her wild claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact.

I can't see how Sidney Powell can wriggle out of these lawsuits.
That makes me wonder if Donald Trump would use the same defence under similar circumstances.
Still, what motivated people to believe her in the first place?