What I am unclear on is whether we can get infected with the exact same version - twice (or more).
Anyone know for sure?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Anyone know for sure?
Boris seems to be totally losing what little mind he had
'Greed' and 'capitalism' helped UK's vaccines success, says PM
He forgot to mention the over 120,000 dead it cost us first with resistance to lockdowns, eat out to help out and Christmas
'Greed' and 'capitalism' helped UK's vaccines success, says PM
He forgot to mention the over 120,000 dead it cost us first with resistance to lockdowns, eat out to help out and Christmas
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I suspect it could, if the right people were minded to act, result in her being chucked out of the profession for her behaviour - now self-admitted.
And it still got reported despite those who attended being asked to scrub the remarks from their notes.
With that sort of attitude, no wonder his flat refurb was so expensive...
for once he has said something truthful.
Shame he has to quickly take it back to protect his reputation.
Shame he has to quickly take it back to protect his reputation.
The Sun and sky news latched onto the fool
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/14434076/boris-johnson-vaccine-row-greed/
Good to see The Sun is up to its usual standards - AstraZenca? Can't even type the company's name properly.
My wife had first Oxford jab on Feb 8, just had invite for second jab later today, so about 6 weeks. 2 very bad days after first jab (in bed, no food, etc). I'll update on side-effects from second jab, it seems anecdotally that it should not be nearly so bad.
I had first Pfizer on Feb 2, no side-effects, no offer of second jab yet.
I had first Pfizer on Feb 2, no side-effects, no offer of second jab yet.
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Found this
Is it true or is it false? I haven't the faintest idea!
" the fact is AZ have 29m extra doses hidden in Rome while simultaneously telling the EU that they can only deliver 1/3 of what the promised in a contract.... more major corporate malfeasance by AZ
Hidden (?) and found following an investigation triggered by a notice from the European Commission...
Here is more
"Hi Fionna, I'm Italian and my family in Italy has confirmed. AZ hid the vaccine doses in a small village outside Rome and was ready to send them to the UK without the Italian permit. It was discovered and blocked (for now) till more investigations are carried. "
I do love traditional ways of doing business the way my ancestors did, nothing like a bit of old fashioned Honest Smuggling
Probably if we do enough of it on a massive scale we might just survive till Brexit is reversed.
Robin Hood's Bay was the last holdout of this traditional trade in Yorkshire, all the older house were connected with hidden tunnels, the Revenue men often didn't bother raiding any particular house as they knew they would end up raiding them all.
By the time they finished that they either had to search local caves, boats, or farms within a ten mile radius where the contraband ha been shifted to!
The locals must have loved watching the performance, after all they didn't have Radio and TV in those days
Is it true or is it false? I haven't the faintest idea!
" the fact is AZ have 29m extra doses hidden in Rome while simultaneously telling the EU that they can only deliver 1/3 of what the promised in a contract.... more major corporate malfeasance by AZ
Hidden (?) and found following an investigation triggered by a notice from the European Commission...
Here is more
"Hi Fionna, I'm Italian and my family in Italy has confirmed. AZ hid the vaccine doses in a small village outside Rome and was ready to send them to the UK without the Italian permit. It was discovered and blocked (for now) till more investigations are carried. "
I do love traditional ways of doing business the way my ancestors did, nothing like a bit of old fashioned Honest Smuggling
Probably if we do enough of it on a massive scale we might just survive till Brexit is reversed.
Robin Hood's Bay was the last holdout of this traditional trade in Yorkshire, all the older house were connected with hidden tunnels, the Revenue men often didn't bother raiding any particular house as they knew they would end up raiding them all.
By the time they finished that they either had to search local caves, boats, or farms within a ten mile radius where the contraband ha been shifted to!
The locals must have loved watching the performance, after all they didn't have Radio and TV in those days
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I said same last week. Read one report and it says supply is major issue. Read another and it says countries throughout EU have large stockpiles.
A doctor from Berlin MVC was on tele last week. He said they had 2.8 million (AZ) vaccines in storage. On same programme not 10 minutes later report said AZ were not supplying sufficient to Germany.???
Controversy over new AstraZeneca data raises more unwanted vaccine questions
Analysis: Outside the UK, the Oxford-made vaccine is struggling to shake off lingering doubts and questions that are undermining public faith in the jab
www.independent.co.uk
Has there been a concerted political move to destroy trust in AZ vaccine or is it problematic.? I suspect the former.
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Thank you for that. It seems I can't though.you can book online here:
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If you’ve already had your first dose of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine at a GP surgery or hospital, contact them to book the second dose of the vaccine.
That part of the system seems to have worked pretty well so far (despite flecc's comments) and my second wasn't due yet anyway according to their (disputed) rules, so I'll wait and see what happens, at least for now.
Those are not necessarily contradictory. 2.8 million is well under a weeks supply when they get their vaccination program in proper swing; just about 2 days worth if they are going to be cautious and keep a second dose ready for use 3 weeks after the fist.
Leaving aside your ancestors, I would find that story unbelievable. AZ would never have done that. Whether the Mafia would be capable is plausible, but the IT infrastructure required makes it improbable. The AZ bottling finishing plant is in Italy. That quantity would require 30 individual batches of product to have gone missing, each with a full inventory chain of invoices ,purchase order, delivery notes and complete audit trails..Found this
Is it true or is it false? I haven't the faintest idea!
" the fact is AZ have 29m extra doses hidden in Rome while simultaneously telling the EU that they can only deliver 1/3 of what the promised in a contract.... more major corporate malfeasance by AZ
Hidden (?) and found following an investigation triggered by a notice from the European Commission...
Here is more
"Hi Fionna, I'm Italian and my family in Italy has confirmed. AZ hid the vaccine doses in a small village outside Rome and was ready to send them to the UK without the Italian permit. It was discovered and blocked (for now) till more investigations are carried. "
I do love traditional ways of doing business the way my ancestors did, nothing like a bit of old fashioned Honest Smuggling
Probably if we do enough of it on a massive scale we might just survive till Brexit is reversed.
Robin Hood's Bay was the last holdout of this traditional trade in Yorkshire, all the older house were connected with hidden tunnels, the Revenue men often didn't bother raiding any particular house as they knew they would end up raiding them all.
By the time they finished that they either had to search local caves, boats, or farms within a ten mile radius where the contraband ha been shifted to!
The locals must have loved watching the performance, after all they didn't have Radio and TV in those days
I would put this down to a soundwave level conspiracy theory.
Now with the additional information from the Bloomberg source, it makes more sense. The Halix plant is not yet licenced to dispense by the EMA, so those doses are going nowhere in the EU at present. If and when the EMA has certified the Halix plant, they will be used in Europe.
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Just a reminder, in case anyone needs it, that all side effects of Covid-19 vaccines, indeed pretty much anything to do with Covid-19, can be reported:
https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
I encourage everyone who has appropriate reason to do so - even if it is a suspicion rather than definite, even if it is mild rather than serious.
https://coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
I encourage everyone who has appropriate reason to do so - even if it is a suspicion rather than definite, even if it is mild rather than serious.
That's only for booking both injections and there are numerous other restrictions, all listed on that link.you can book online here:
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I agree.. that is how progress is made. My son had a much better night , .. not over the reaction yet , but certainly a lot easier than the previous night.