Brexit, for once some facts.

POLLY

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The whole program has been a case of relying on luck at every point and still is, as we don't know whether the extra delay between doses can allow a dangerous variant to develop.
For that reason the numbers half injected which simply increases the number and hence the probability of that happening rather destroys the glamour of the numbers game however attractive that seems.
And frankly we have left the EU
What they do is no longer something we have any control over
And frankly a bad idea times 60 million remains a bad idea.
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POLLY

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Can't find video but it's explained in here.
The chances of mutation are much less risk than risk we, d be taking vaccinating slower.
They knew about mentioned risk straight away.It's not new,and it was answered in briefing at least 3 weeks ago,probably more.
Its quite obvious really, had it been a significant risk, they would not have extended delay.
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POLLY

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But they didn't have delay in NY... Its happened anyway. Just as SA variant happened, just as UK variant did.
A variant could spring up anytime.Number of variants correlate to number of infections as well. Yes, there is a mechanism that could cause variant with delay but the risk is off set by reduction in infection and its severity. (severe cases can cause variants)
There isn't a risk free route OG. How many times...
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POLLY

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Generally yes. Survival of the fit , means that for viruses , the ability to keep the host live and producing copies is the best strategy. But the CV19,is already very good at that. Its trick of being infective while in stealth mode , is masterly. But what if a mutation decides to over drive the cell and produce a thousand times more particles even at the cost of 10% mortality, rather than the current 3%. And or actually become airborne? Rather than the current droplet borne.
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POLLY

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Much of statistics seems inappropriately applied, to me.

Imagine there is a one in a hundred bad outcome from some health intervention (e.g. vaccination, minor operation,etc.), it tends to be put in terms which such each subject has a 1:100 chance for each person undergoing it. Whereas the reality is that a few of the hundred will have a much higher risk, and the rest much lower.

Sometimes we could even identify the individuals most at risk before the intervention. Sometimes we could in theory do so, but don't have the appropriate techniques. (And I am not even going down the path of people who are already obviously ill.) Perhaps a whole genome analysis? Perhaps a single blood or urine test?

Indeed, all too often we do not even collect the appropriate statistics to help us do so in future.
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jonathan.agnew

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Like all governments, they are pupets
Were all puppets, or as larkin say

Meanwhile telephones crouch, getting ready to ring
In locked-up offices, and all the uncaring
Intricate rented world begins to rouse.
The sky is white as clay, with no sun.
Work has to be done.
Postmen like doctors go from house to house
 
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oldgroaner

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Postmen like doctors go from house to house
Even I don't remember when that happened, I wonder when he actually wrote that?
I'll rewrite it for him
Postmen like Burglars, Mormons and Jehovas Witnesses go from House to house
The regularity and quality of services are subject to local availability and or property values.
 

oldgroaner

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.. see JHC.. evolution at work. Of course its mindless ,but you would almost think an intelligence was deciding...
Of course if you cast your mind back to legendary group of humanities nearest relatives locked in a fictional room rewriting the entire works of shakespeare
this could be a sample released for peer review
 

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PS Isle of Wight!
Now corrected, comes of not concentrating on what I was typing and doing it phonetically in my mind! For 8 years I lived close to the Isle of Wight and often motorcycled there in my teens, so I certainly know how to spell it.
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flecc

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This is very odd

What on Earth are we to make of this?
It makes sense to me. I've long noticed how we tend to suffer one thing at a time, as if what we are suffering protects us against other diseases.

My mother is an example of what I mean. She was one of 13 children in her large family and when young suffered rheumatic fever which caused her heart to be damaged. At 64 that heart was failing with valve disease and a replacement heart valve gave her 14 more years to 78. At no time did she ever have any form of cancer.

All the other 12 children died of cancer in their early 70s and so did their mother**. It appears my mothers damaged heart condition prevented her alone from suffering that fate.

I remember how what made AIDS so puzzling when it first appeared was the way victims could suffer multiple illnesses simultaneously.

** Their father died earlier from the effects of being gassed in WW1.
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