But can the AZ be the second dose to a first dose Pfizer?
Especially after 12 weeks but still be effective? I'd suggest there's more unknowns than knowns in that mix.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Especially after 12 weeks but still be effective? I'd suggest there's more unknowns than knowns in that mix.
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No. Even if there is no contra-indication.
I think we used up the first shipment of Pfizer. Don't forget the price tag: Pfizer $25 against AZ 2.18 euros.
This while true needs to be taken under advisement, the government are not notorious when it comes to wanting to look "World Beating! " are they?
How many people in the UK have had their booster jab? | ITV News
Updated daily, check the latest data on how the booster programme is progressing as the government aims to give all adults a booster this winter. | ITV National Newswww.itv.com
Most sites (including NHS and. Gov are not updated daily.) With a vaccine rate of 400k plus a day if they are not updated daily or written that day of course they will show lower figures)
But I suppose anybody saying anything positive is part of the grand conspiracy.
So yes, perhaps ITV lying..
So we still have to buy enough Pfizer to complete all the first jabs using that. I know we've ordered much more but don't know if the excess can be cancelled to save money. I doubt it.
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Still trying that corny line?How many people in the UK have had their booster jab? | ITV News
Updated daily, check the latest data on how the booster programme is progressing as the government aims to give all adults a booster this winter. | ITV National News
Most sites (including NHS and. Gov are not updated daily.) With a vaccine rate of 400k plus a day if they are not updated daily or written that day of course they will show lower figures)
The linked site updates throughout the day, or it was doing.(this one was updated yesterday tea time)
But I suppose anybody saying anything positive is part of the grand conspiracy.
So yes, perhaps ITV lying..
"But I suppose anybody saying anything positive is part of the grand conspiracy. "
Doing half a job and risking peoples lives in the process is not a course of action that even remotely can be classed as positive.
But suggesting anyone being cautious is part of a grand conspiracy could well be part of one.
Praise should be earned not used to make excuses for poor performance
That sort of approach could lead to an outbreak of competence and success. It’ll never catch on.
BMJ announced on 4th January in extreme situations vaccines can be mixed. Think it was reported on here.
www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n12
Says quite clearly in here if second dose not available its preferable to give available jab.??? Unchartered waters..(USA are not allowing this)
But say you rolled up for 2nd jab and you were told no Pfizer available.
Would you
A) Wait (??? How long?)
B) refuse jab completely.
C) Accept AZ??
I wonder if we, d even know?
Above situation is going to happen...
Think I, d go for C... But???
Says quite clearly in here if second dose not available its preferable to give available jab.??? Unchartered waters..(USA are not allowing this)
But say you rolled up for 2nd jab and you were told no Pfizer available.
Would you
A) Wait (??? How long?)
B) refuse jab completely.
C) Accept AZ??
I wonder if we, d even know?
Above situation is going to happen...
Think I, d go for C... But???
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There's nothing like a Scientific approach
And this is just that, nothing like a Scientific approach.
But what a fantastic saving to be made eh?
$20 down to £2.40?
And we can claim our huge casualties are the result of world beating VA analysis
We tried following the Science but then realised it was so far ahead it was lapping us for the third time
It was weeks, if not months, ago there was talk of using Oxford-AstraZeneca for one dose and Sputnik for the second. From memory, they were thinking about doing a trial. Even some hope that such an approach might be better in terms of coping with variations in the virus.
No idea what then happened. If anything.
COVID-19: How many people have had a coronavirus vaccine in the UK?
There are concerns about whether the booster jab programme can accelerate fast enough in response to a possible surge in COVID cases due to the Omicron variant.
This site in theory gives a live count of Vaccinations given. (no idea how they know but looks great)
But the 6,353,321st person must have rhino skin.. Seems to be stuck...
I think Moderna, AZ and Pfizer all produce a response in same body mechanisms... But who knows... But I agree I, d take C but wouldn't want somebody making decision for me.. Its not perfect but I, d guess as more vaccines come on line its going to happen more.???
Every year I roll up for flu vaccine without a question of what it is...???
Doesn't tie up with this:
Around 5million Pfizer jabs in the UK... but why haven’t they been used more quickly?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/5m-pfizer-vaccine-jabs-uk-questions-rollout-b698245.html
Gibraltar COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Gibraltar Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Has anyone noticed how sever Covid has hit Gibraltar.
Only has a population of 30k or so but has had 65 deaths..
Compare that to Isle of Man with over treble that population has had according to data I can find only 25..??
Gubraltar warmer, very similar socio economy.???
Wonder why...??
Isle of Man (24/1/21)
Roughly you are 4 times more likely to die of Covid in Gibraltar than you are on Isle of Man??? What on earth is going on..
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Gibraltar is a town, more densely populated compared to the IOM.
Could be.. But folk are reasonably well spaced (place must hold 60k tourists when there at height of season)
Majority of folk on Isle of Man live in Douglas. I, d guess Douglas has more inhabitants than Gibraltar???
Just checked.. Douglas has 29k residents. Gibraltar in total 30k..Geographically Gibraltar way bigger than Douglas, but has fared probably 5 times worse??
There is something going on nobody knows about with Covid. Difference in stats can't be explained at moment. Think we are all still guessing.
Gibraltar has had approaching 2000 deaths per million population.???
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