Brexit, for once some facts.

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What factory? Making what? Anything useful?
A lot of people like myself need to retrain to use AI in our daily jobs. Nobody writes code completely unassisted anymore.
I run locally LLMs and also pay monthly to GitHub, OpenAI, google Colab, Amazon AWS, Digital Ocean, Nvidia etc. You can rent their cloud GPUs (about 60p-£10/h depending on the chip) instead of running the stuff on your PC. Multiply that demand by hundreds of millions, you can see why datacentres grow so fast.
 

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By the spring, Ukraine will get a lot more F16s and long range ammunitions, they should be able to create some safe airspace for their troops. If they manage to keep attacking deeper into Russia, Russians and the oligarchs may stop their support for the war. The table will turn.
Of course, if they get those weapons, but they already need them now and far more ammunition. Far from Ukraine penetrating deeper into Russia, they have already lost 40% of what they gained in Kursk and will have lost all of it soon at the present rate.

Putin and Russia will never attack a NATO country unless they attack Russia first.
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But can't holiday on the beach forever...
"So homesick had to return". Thought it was all rubble according to media propaganda? Who would take kids into a war zone?
"Moved back to small places near the front line". Can one really believe that? Are they lemmings, or what?
 

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"So homesick had to return". Thought it was all rubble according to media propaganda? Who would take kids into a war zone?
"Moved back to small places near the front line". Can one really believe that? Are they lemmings, or what?
Why do you think it's dangerous everywhere?
 

flecc

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But can't holiday on the beach forever...
"So homesick had to return". Thought it was all rubble according to media propaganda? Who would take kids into a war zone?
"Moved back to small places near the front line". Can one really believe that? Are they lemmings, or what?
Most of Ukraine is nowhere near a front line. So long as one doesn't move into a large city with infrastructure to target, or within a couple of miles or so of a front line, life can be peaceful.

I watched a TV documentary on rural life very near to Donbass and life was very normal, kids of all ages playing in the village and the surrounding countryside for miles around. In the background was the constant deep sound of explosions as munitions were used on the front line, but the youngsters took no notice, being so used to it.

The only person who showed any stress was their old grandmother who remembered the quiet rural life long before Donbass became disputed land.
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MikelBikel

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Why do you think it's dangerous everywhere?
Because the constant media fear mongering about Ukrandia. Millions have returned to a supposed warzone, With Kids! (According to same media). So either it's not dangerous at all now. Or not everywhere, and there was no need to leave the country altogether in the first place. Where did all evacuees from London go in ww2, to America?
Remember the quote: "a man fleeing war takes his family with him, while a man going to war leaves his family behind"? Which type are flooding into UK and IRL?
 

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Most of Ukraine is nowhere near a front line. So long as one doesn't move into a large city with infrastructure to target, or within a couple of miles or so of a front line, life can be peaceful.

I watched a TV documentary on rural life very near to Donbass and life was very normal, kids of all ages playing in the village and the surrounding countryside for miles around. In the background was the constant deep sound of explosions as munitions were used on the front line, but the youngsters took no notice, being so used to it.

The only person who showed any stress was their old grandmother who remembered the quiet rural life long before Donbass became disputed land.
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If Eastern Ukrandians can't find asylum in Western Ukrandia, and would rather flee abroad to a country one fifth the size, IRL. Then I wonder if that gives a clue as to the elephant in the room?
After all, we are reliably informed that partition works in IRL, where big bully to East won't give back our 6 counties! :)
 

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Where did all evacuees from London go in ww2, to America?
Mostly to the countryside, some to the colonies.
Some Ukrainians may have taken advantage of the situation but the vast majority are victims of the war. 6 millions are internally displaced, 8 millions took refuge in neighbouring countries such as Poland (3 millions), Germany (1.1M) etc. We host about 240k Ukrainian refugees.
 
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flecc

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So either it's not dangerous at all now. Or not everywhere, and there was no need to leave the country altogether in the first place.
That was the truth. When the Russian assault began huge numbers fled West in a panic, but it turned out there was no need. When the Russians realised the assault on Kiev was going nowhere they turned to their real objective of capturing the Ukrainian access to the Azov and Black Seas, to cripple Ukraine economically.

The only threat to Ukrainian civilians then was from the Russian missile attacks on large infrastructure, so to be safe then it was only necessary to avoid the southern seaboard front line and heavily built up areas, settling instead in small towns and villages, of which there are large numbers in that largely rural country. That's where they are able to go back to.
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