Brexit, for once some facts.
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I don't know oyster, I didn't catch all of what he was saying. I came in when he was part way through it. I assume he must have been replying to someone asking a question about it. I have had a very quick look on line to see if I can find anything but so nothing to report. You seem to be fairly good at finding health info on line if you come across anything can you post it up here.
Just seen that 30% of folk say that as soon as they get vaccinated they're going to get back to normal - that would be a spanner in the works for stats.
Also this won't help > Monday morning on the tube.
Plus OG is (was?) ahead of Flecc towards herd immunity!
Also this won't help > Monday morning on the tube.
Plus OG is (was?) ahead of Flecc towards herd immunity!
I wonder if this is having any effect on numbers at moment???Just seen that 30% of folk say that as soon as they get vaccinated they're going to get back to normal - that would be a spanner in the works for stats.
Also this won't help > Monday morning on the tube.
Plus OG is (was?) ahead of Flecc towards herd immunity!
Deaths terrible today but yet again a reduction in numbers infected. (local hospital has seen drops in hospital on each of last 7 days)
That’s excellent news. This is a global effort. The more vaccine that is available, the better as far as I’m concerned.I was waiting for that - surprised you didn't see the headlines
French firm 'days away' from 60million doses of Britain's FOURTH jab
Whitehall sources are confident of accelerating the pace of the rollout to a point where four to five million people are receiving their shots each week.www.dailymail.co.uk
A Scottish factory is gearing up to produce a 'treacherous' 60million doses of the French vaccine as soon as regulations allow. "Days away..."
Covid: Clinical trials begin for Valneva vaccine
The vaccine, which is manufactured in West Lothian, could be available by the end of 2021.www.bbc.co.uk
"The vaccine could be available by the end of 2021."
Valneva will potentially have the capacity to supply up to 250 million vaccine doses to the UK and internationally.
Looks like we'll be exporting more than we get....
I don't think we are yet seeing increases in either cases or deaths due to people becoming irresponsible after the jab, though I fear we very likely will. Hopefully the death rate will be dropping quite soon, following in the wake of the recent drop in cases.
Is anything off topic on this thread?
We are prioritising the more vulnerable groups first.
Look at it like this:
Say for example we had capacity to vaccinate 10000 people per hour, but for various reasons only 7000 per hour from the priority groups were presenting themselves for vaccination. That leaves a spare vaccination capacity of 3000 shots per hour. It would be criminal not to use that spare capacity until all of the most vulnerable groups had been vaccinated. The sensible and proper thing to do is start using the spare 3000 shots / hour capacity on the next tier down whilst simultaneously trying to encourage the 80+ groups to come forwards.
I’m happy to wait my turn in the 50s tier. It would be nice to get vaccinated today, but others need it more than me.
I listen to JVT. I think he talks sense and as far as I can see he agrees with the vaccination process.
So far, this government is making a good job of the vaccination programme. They have made the mother of all fuckups out of everything else, but that doesn’t mean the vaccination programme will go the same way. We must hope.
That's exactly how daughter and her husband got vaccinations. Their local vaccination centre had quite a lot of no shows so phoned police/fire/ambulance stations. They sent down appropriate staff..
Seems very sensible to me.
I, m happy sat at home awaiting my turn.
Suspect that effect would be more pronounced if everybody had 2nd vaccine early.???
The same happened near me. A few van loads of cops went down and received a vaccination. I think they should be on the priority list along with teachers and other similar occupations.
No, anything goes.
I made a mistake with my thread title though, it should have been:
"Number 42, the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything".
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No. The sensible and proper thing to do is start using the spare shots / hour capacity on the the remainder of the same tier.
What arrogance is it that you think the over 80s need encouraging to get the vaccine?
The evidence seems to be the opposite in my experience, in my own area and within this thread where only eagerness appears in both. And polling has shown the opposite, the much younger ages saying they don't want it.
As I made very clear earlier, the issue is not about a few no shows and of course those few doses should be used. The issue is about the areas programming younger age groups to receive the jab when many areas have less than half of the over 80s even offered a jab and some areas not even having any vaccine yet for anyone.
That is not a good job done, and neither is their constant changing of policies like 21 days suddenly changing to 12 weeks, very risky and without any medical justification.
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Hmm. It will be a bit of an oddity in that the call sign will change while in flight. AF1 only used when president is aboard.
I actually suspect that they will do what they can to avoid him being in the air at that point. After all, it is difficult for the NYPD and who knows who else to serve arrest warrants while he is in the air!
Plus any variants of subjects that develop themselves in the period until Britain rejoins the EU or the contributors succumb to Covid-19 or old age
I know that people aren’t turning up because a friend who works at a vaccination centre told me so, it’s not uncommon. An old lady near me didn’t go because it was too far. If I know of one case there will be more.
Nobody is missing out, it’s just a case of utilising available capacity to the full.
12 weeks isn’t ideal, but JVT says it’s ok, so I’ll hitch my wagon to him.
That would be really awful for the people of Nome, I quite enjoy watching the Gold Divers series on the Discovery channel, I wouldn't want Trump sticking his nose into the Gold mining business
Evan Davis discussed it briefly on the Radio 4 PM prog this evening. He said there had been a leak from a briefing given to the Israeli cabinet about infection rates of people who had been given just the one jab so far of the Pfizer vaccine. The data appeared to be showing an effective rate below the 90% rate Pizer had seen. I think its just too early to tell yet what is going on, hopefully the Israelis and Pfizer will release the data when they are more confident of its findings.
Anonymised report:
Had Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
Really bad headache
Could not keep eyes open.
Eyes severely swollen.
Took antihistamines.
2 days for the swelling to go down.
Which is unpleasant enough in its own right. But now wishes had waited for Oxford vaccination as now can't have either it or the second Pfizer.
(Has been Yellow Carded.)
Had Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
Really bad headache
Could not keep eyes open.
Eyes severely swollen.
Took antihistamines.
2 days for the swelling to go down.
Which is unpleasant enough in its own right. But now wishes had waited for Oxford vaccination as now can't have either it or the second Pfizer.
(Has been Yellow Carded.)