Brexit, for once some facts.

Barry Shittpeas

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Well you are putting it out. And I respect that (including the clever pun i just lay there, like a barn fresh egg, on a Saturday morning). I mean the thread can subsist on more heat than light. But, in the absence of fact your allegations have the same solid empirical feel as the Donald's ranting (which is beginning to take on a ms haversham quality, I'm sincerely becoming concerned for his mental health). Which is why biden will be president and this episode will go down as a Republican disgrace and attack on democracy.
So I think you may be coming down on the Rubbish side? (sorry if I’ve misread your post).

That’s fine. As I say, I’m just putting it out there.
 

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So I think you may be coming down on the Rubbish side? (sorry if I’ve misread your post).

That’s fine. As I say, I’m just putting it out there.
God knows. Biden is a professional politician and, for that, I'm sure as pure as the driven New York slush. But I think the election was fair. And I'm relieved to wake up to a world with one less malignant megalomaniac (trump). And it will be sunny in the south until tomorrow (when it will be winter again). So I'm taking a leaf out of oj's playbook and going for a run
 

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I'm sincerely becoming concerned for his mental health.
I've always thought he wasn't right mentally but I agree with you I think he has got worse. I wonder if it might have something to do with the cocktail of drugs he must be taking to be able to do the rallys he has been doing over the last few weeks.

If we think how drained and lethargic BJ looked after his spell in hospital and he is years younger than DT, it has been quite remarkable the energy Trump has displayed since his stay there. I know some people think he never had the virus in the first place, I do not believe that. I think he did have it but I think they have pumped him full of all kinds of things to try and get him well, and I suspect it is steroids and who knows what else is currently keep him going. When he comes off all this he is going to be on an all time low.
 
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And are likely to remain so. They know who best looks after their interests.
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I expect the rank and file to be more Republican with the emphasis on Fundamentalism . I now expect the commissioned grades to be more nuanced . .. republican and conservative with a little r and big C They have taken oaths to the Constitution , and will have taken history lessons about the personal oaths demanded by Hitler will not have been lost on them. This is my reading from other sites I view.
 
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On the CV19 front, the mink farm story is extremely serious. If it succeeds in jumping backwards and forwards into wild populations of ferrets ,stoats it will be endemic, and impossible to eradicate. The UK and now NI have banned traffic from Denmark.
I recall that a number of months ago, CV19 was detected in a single mink farm,and was from feedstock infected by a CV19 positive farm worker. This was the the scenario I was most afraid of .. That enough human infection would increase the probability of this happening.
 

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Changing the subject. You may remember me saying that a friend had Coronavirus symptoms earlier in the year (April), fever, loss of smell & taste, persistent cough etc. She is very fit & healthy and completed an Iron Man Triathlon in 2019. Every test indicated that she didn’t have it ( CV test and antibody).

She has suffered with Long Covid symptoms ever since. She struggles to walk 5K now and every 3 to 4 days she’s completely wiped out and spends most of the day in bed.

She has also been experiencing heart problems since April. She has had several scans and the consultant says from what he can see on the scans, he’s 100% sure she has had Coronavirus. Says he’s seen the same with people who have previously tested positive and negative.

She was slowly recovering, as the consultant predicted. That was until the middle of last week when she took a huge step backwards. Sh phoned me this morning to say she’s tested positive for coronavirus!
Just the other day, R4 Extra broadcast "The Adventure of the Lion's Mane," by Conan Doyle, in which this is said:

Fitzroy McPherson was "A science master whose life had been crippled by heart trouble following rheumatic fever."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/647589

While rheumatic fever is a bacterial disease, the idea of heart problems being caused by an infectious agent, bacterial or viral, has a long history. We just tend not to notice.
 

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Some interesting facts....

2000 Presidential election:

Al Gore - 50,999,879 Votes
George Bush - 50,456,002 Votes
Bush wins the Election.

2016 Presidential election:

Clinton - 65,853,514 Votes
Trump - 62,984,828 Votes
Trump wins the Election

2020 Presidential election:

Biden - 74,811,378 Votes
Trump - 70,554,537 Votes
Biden wins the Election.

Yep..something's not right :D
 

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Just the other day, R4 Extra broadcast "The Adventure of the Lion's Mane," by Conan Doyle, in which this is said:

Fitzroy McPherson was "A science master whose life had been crippled by heart trouble following rheumatic fever."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/647589

While rheumatic fever is a bacterial disease, the idea of heart problems being caused by an infectious agent, bacterial or viral, has a long history. We just tend not to notice.
Yep!. I had Rheumatic fever as a 5 year old, and was on my back for months . The fear was heart valve damage,so I was forbidden to run for a few years after. One thing my recent echogram , some 65 years later, showed was no valve damage.
 
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Fitzroy McPherson was "A science master whose life had been crippled by heart trouble following rheumatic fever."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/647589

While rheumatic fever is a bacterial disease, the idea of heart problems being caused by an infectious agent, bacterial or viral, has a long history. We just tend not to notice.
My mother's lifelong heart problem followed her contracting rheumatic fever when very young. A replacement valve at 64 kept her going but in the end heart muscle and aortal decay ended her life.
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Nev

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This was the the scenario I was most afraid of .. That enough human infection would increase the probability of this happening.
Yes, I don't think there has been enough information given to people about vaccines. If we get safe and effective vaccines then it's in all our interests that these vaccines should be provided to everyone on the planet not just the wealthy countries. If only the rich countries get the vaccines or the lions share of the vaccines and we just let the virus rip through the poorer countries then the chances of many mutations happening in these countries and coming back to us and our vaccines no longer working are quite high I would have thought.
 
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Sleepy Joe, we now see why he didn't Campaign at all. Trump was leading Michigan by 300k votes with 70 percent votes in, Trump was leading Wisconsin by 140k votes with 60 percent in, Trump was leading Pennsylvania by 700k votes with 65 percent in, Trump was leading Georgia by 275k votes with 86 percent in. Then, suddenly, all of those states stopped counting for the Day/Night, then guess what happened. Trump also pulled 60 percent of minority votes, the best from a republican President in 60 years.


Miscounts, computer system errors, and Biden’s people wont let anyone see the counting. It should never take 3 to 4 days to count votes, it’s absurd and it stinks of cheating. Never since 1876, when modern aids didn’t exist, has it taken so long to count votes. It’s not a difficult process. If Texas with 11 million voters can count all their votes, then why are the smaller, Democrat run states taking so long? If Liberals are confident then they should not have a problem with every ballot being checked and counted.

This election has been “Perfectly cheated.” It has to be the most corrupt, disgraceful and brazen act of treachery against the American people in history. Democrat voters didn’t even vote for Biden, he’s a Trojan Horse, Harris will be president. They weren’t honest about that because she would have received no votes. I don’t know if it’s possible, but Trump should tie this up in legal proceedings for months and until the dirty truth is revealed.
I love it when you make satirical posts, and this is one of the best
But then only anyone utterly incapable of accepting facts would be a right winger enough that they would think you were being serious. :cool:
 

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Changing the subject. You may remember me saying that a friend had Coronavirus symptoms earlier in the year (April), fever, loss of smell & taste, persistent cough etc. She is very fit & healthy and completed an Iron Man Triathlon in 2019. Every test indicated that she didn’t have it ( CV test and antibody).

She has suffered with Long Covid symptoms ever since. She struggles to walk 5K now and every 3 to 4 days she’s completely wiped out and spends most of the day in bed.

She has also been experiencing heart problems since April. She has had several scans and the consultant says from what he can see on the scans, he’s 100% sure she has had Coronavirus. Says he’s seen the same with people who have previously tested positive and negative.

She was slowly recovering, as the consultant predicted. That was until the middle of last week when she took a huge step backwards. Sh phoned me this morning to say she’s tested positive for coronavirus!
Very sorry to hear that flecc, please pass on our good wishes to her for a speedy recovery
 

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