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OxygenJames

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I don’t think I posted a screenshot. Could be wrong, but I don’t think I did.

I believe that it is within the US election rules to sign a postal ballot paper after sending it in, if you forgot to do it before posting. The deadline is 17:00 local for doing that. Voters can go on-line to check if their paper needs a signature. This applies equally to both sides, Reps and Dems.

So my original post wasn’t total BS :p
Sorry Barry - it was 'SirNigel' who sent that screenshot in.
 

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I thought we were talking about acquired immunity.
No I was speaking of all circumstance immunity since it dioesn't really matter how we are immune, so long as we are.

If we carry on with the current gross daily infection rate and deaths we could effectively have herd immunity in as little as 4 years, possibly before we all get an effective vaccine.
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Which is why I like to walk in the woods with my dog - you can forget about all that for a while.

What's wrong with right now unless you think about it? Most of the time nothing.
Which is why I spend my spare time in the countryside or with things concerned with countryside matters.
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The Dems need to get all of those unsigned postal votes signed by the 17:00 deadline today. (In the U.K., these are known as Spoilt Ballot Papers). I’m not sure how you get a corpse to sign a ballot paper though. Could be tricky. I’m sure the Dems will find a way, after all, they managed to get a corpse to stand for president.
Yes, Fraud, Fraud and more Fraud
Biden must now do the decent thing and stand down


Here are their names.

Here was the list…



One of the families was contacted and the ballot was tossed.
MORE Dead Voters Caught Voting in Michigan — Many Are Older than the Oldest Human Alive Today

By Jim Hoft
Published November 4, 2020 at 6:53pm
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No I was speaking of all circumstance immunity since it dioesn't really matter how we are immune, so long as we are.

If we carry on with the current gross daily infection rate and deaths we could effectively have herd immunity in as little as 4 years, possibly before we all get an effective vaccine.
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But at a cost of 5% of the population. That is 3 million deaths. As I have posted before, the assumption that fragments of RNA found in sewer water is evidence of anything is suspect. The only or most valid measure of death rate is anyone who has died this year, after a Positive Diagnosis of CV19, and where the cause is not unambiguously something else. When hospitals are working with capacity, that number of 3% and can treble when they are overwhelmed. .So 5% is a middle figure.
 
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tell me you don't believe his story.
Trump is the worst president in US history.
I don't believe nor disbelieve it. I wait for evidence. I have found this on several websites. It's not on the DHS website under press releases, but the explanation given is that it's only been released to some sort of press agency.


My thinking at the moment is than Infowars wouldn't publish the story unless they were confident it's true because their whole ISP is communicating the truth. If a big story like that turned out to be a hoax, it would finish them. Also, the story would be easy to debunk when nobody gets arrested and no evidence comes out, which would make the guy in video look pretty stupid and destroy him too. The way the hoax has been described is absolute. They either did the sting or not. Whichever it is, it will be made certain shortly, so I can't see that it makes sense to hoax it. On the other hand, that press release looks very amateurish. It reads like it was written by a 17 year old in his bedroom.

There is also some background to it that fits with the story. Trump passed an executive order about election interference after the last mid-terms. He stated that there would be voter fraud many times in the lead up to the election, so it would be logical that he'd do something rather than just let it happen. I don't see that he did anything else. On the other hand any fiction writer could make a story based on all these facts.

In summary, I remain skeptical, but I don't discount it. One way or other, we should know pretty soon.

I'm so enthralled by all the goings on in the USA. I've been following it for 4 years, and it's the best whodunnit I've ever watched. It hasn't finished yet. I don't even know who the good and bad guys are, though I have my suspicions. If Biden wins, it'll have a boring ending and I'll have to find my evening entertainment elsewhere. If Trump wins we get another 4 years of entertainment, so I'd like this episode to be true.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Yes, Fraud, Fraud and more Fraud
Biden must now do the decent thing and stand down


Here are their names.

Here was the list…



One of the families was contacted and the ballot was tossed.
MORE Dead Voters Caught Voting in Michigan — Many Are Older than the Oldest Human Alive Today

By Jim Hoft
Published November 4, 2020 at 6:53pm
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That’s a disgrace. The count needs to be put on hold and a through independent investigation carried out. Something is clearly very wrong.
 
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Yes, Fraud, Fraud and more Fraud
Biden must now do the decent thing and stand down


Here are their names.

Here was the list…



One of the families was contacted and the ballot was tossed.
MORE Dead Voters Caught Voting in Michigan — Many Are Older than the Oldest Human Alive Today

By Jim Hoft
Published November 4, 2020 at 6:53pm
320 Comments
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jonathan.agnew

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That’s a disgrace. The count needs to be put on hold and a through independent investigation carried out. Something is clearly very wrong.
Accusations of fraud. From trump. And his supporters. and a boris supporter. Much too ironic. If I werent at work I'd be crawling around laughing hysterically until someone gave me decent shot of lithium.
 

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Barry and VR ..stop the fake news !. Look at NBC, MSBC,CBS, ABC,CNN and yes even FOX. Listen to GOP Senators prevaricate and dissimulate..but not endorse the ramblings from the WH.
What is happening is a repudiation of Trump the person and personality, but not of conservative party values.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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OG will buy into this one. It’s well documented on here that he likes a Russian conspiracy theory.

What if the Russians are involved with influencing the outcome of the US election? Sowing seeds of instability and uncertainty by deliberately causing a Biden win, knowing that will trigger unprecedented behaviour from the incumbent President?

They could be sending space rays down to Earth from secret space stations which make people vote for Biden. What do you think OG? Plausible?
 

Danidl

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OG will buy into this one. It’s well documented on here that he likes a Russian conspiracy theory.

What if the Russians are involved with influencing the outcome of the US election? Sowing seeds of instability and uncertainty by deliberately causing a Biden win, knowing that will trigger unprecedented behaviour from the incumbent President?

They could be sending space rays down to Earth from secret space stations which make people vote for Biden. What do you think OG? Plausible?
Implausible. Whereas looking at 250,000 potentially avoidable deaths tends to concentrate the minds of even the very selfish. Many will be seeing that curbing the epidemic is the best way of getting the US economy back up and running
 
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flecc

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But at a cost of 5% of the population. That is 3 million deaths. As I have posted before, the assumption that fragments of RNA found in sewer water is evidence of anything is suspect. The only or most valid measure of death rate is anyone who has died this year, after a Positive Diagnosis of CV19, and where the cause is not unambiguously something else. When hospitals are working with capacity, that number of 3% and can treble when they are overwhelmed. .So 5% is a middle figure.
Indeed, I've made it very clear in this sequence of posts that this herd immunity is at the cost of deaths, and I would expect over 5%.
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