Brexit, for once some facts.
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This article in the Guardian mentions it will be the Home Office and not the Treasury that will look into it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/26/vicars-query-over-lockdown-travel-fines-challenges-hancock#maincontent
I wonder if the Government are still happy with allowing the public to ask questions at the start of each briefing? I think they really liked the questions from the grandmothers about when they could cuddle their grand children again. This allowed them to waffle on and use up around 5 mins of the Q and A section.
I wonder who choses which public questions to put forward is it the BBC or the Civil Service. Either one would have been extremely happy to put forward the Revs question I am sure.
Perhaps just lulling them into a false sense of security and waiting for the right time to strike with a hum dinger of a question.
If I were Johnson, I'd let him go on account of the herd immunity strategy.
It is clear now that herd immunity is not the correct strategy.
Possibly not, but we've once again turned in very low figures in London with the graph at the bottom. And as you know, we didn't do that through strict lockdown but with taking the hit early.
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to new research suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
The research by Public Health England and Cambridge University suggests London could be coronavirus-free as soon as June, based on new modelling statistics.
The capital’s virus reproduction rate – known as R – has fallen to 0.4, compared to around 2.8 before lockdown.
That gives London the lowest R rate in the country, according to the University of Cambridge’s MRC Biostatistics Unit.
London counts 'just 24' new coronavirus cases per day
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to a new report suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
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Switzerland is there and even Latvia (a pretty darned small country lots of space but low population). But they are beating "world-beating" UK...Last I saw it was all OK. except it had problems on Google and Apple phones.
What is the test, track and trace system in England?
What we know about the government’s plans to help curb the spread of coronaviruswww.theguardian.com
the trial on the Isle of Wight has thrown up problems. For one thing, it appears the app does not work so well with Google- and Apple-operated phones.
To be fair, maybe it meant between Google and Apple phones
Coronavirus: First Google/Apple-based contact-tracing app launched
By Leo Kelion Technology desk editor
- 7 hours ago
Members of the Swiss army, hospital workers and civil servants can now install the SwissCovid app ahead of a planned wider rollout.
A Latvian coalition says it is running close behind.
But the US tech firms face criticism for their prescriptive approach.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52807635
‘That is remarkable, absolutely astonishing and I hope it continues that way.Possibly not, but we've once again turned in very low figures in London with the graph at the bottom. And as you know, we didn't do that through strict lockdown but with taking the hit early.
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to new research suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
The research by Public Health England and Cambridge University suggests London could be coronavirus-free as soon as June, based on new modelling statistics.
The capital’s virus reproduction rate – known as R – has fallen to 0.4, compared to around 2.8 before lockdown.
That gives London the lowest R rate in the country, according to the University of Cambridge’s MRC Biostatistics Unit.
.London counts 'just 24' new coronavirus cases per day
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to a new report suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
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Ive just watched a report on the BBC News at 10. A consultant they interviewed reckons that a second wave is coming as the lockdown measures are eased. I hope he is wrong, but I can’t find any reason why he would be.
Why are you so sure London is over it? If someone becomes infected, why won’t they pass it on, and why don’t you think those who it is passed on to, won’t pass it on further? I see this as inevitable once measures are loosened further.
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Last I saw - it picked out one person on the IoW and it was the island's residents MP's girlfriend - I kid you not. I suspect big bill, drawing board and back to where we started ....
Here we go - same story in DM and Express...
"But having spoken to dozens of islanders the only person The Mail on Sunday found who had heard of anyone receiving an alert was the Isle of Wight's MP Bob Seely.
Mr Seeley was key to helping arrange the trial and is proud of the island’s long history of innovation.
His girlfriend, he says, was notified – told she'd been in contact with someone showing symptoms of coronavirus. "
How many alerts have been issued by the NHS track-and-trace app
Early on Friday morning an orderly queue formed outside the newly-opened Paradice Ice Cream Parlour on the High Street in Cowes.
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That may be true, but I fear the sanctimony of those on the far right (who has never so far given a **** about the public's wellbeing. And I fear more the usual gullible part of the electorate who take their populist machinations on face value. It's the kind of mob instinct playing out at present that boris and cummings used to be so skilled at using to their advantage. I don't like cummings and think he should go, but am morbidly confident that he and boris will be replaced by far right stooges like jrm, or worse. Much as during brexit, our political discourse is not engaging with what is really happening, what really matters.
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Ever wondered why Boris has that extra static frizz to his hair - something rubbed off during his formative IT lunchtime lessons into believing of a Great British post-Brexit revival in homegrown IT and technological advances.
Emily Maitlis isn't letting them get away with crap.
If DC had died, how would Johnson manage? So important, he is essential, yet he was in Durham, apparently almost dying, and the PM apparently didn't even know where he was! (Or was that Domini Craab at the time who should have known?)
If DC had died, how would Johnson manage? So important, he is essential, yet he was in Durham, apparently almost dying, and the PM apparently didn't even know where he was! (Or was that Domini Craab at the time who should have known?)
I'm not, London can get a second phase later as easily as anywhere else. What I am sure of is that London getting the first phase over by taking the inevitable hit quickly was the best way to tackle this in a city where effective social isolation isn't possible. Repeatedly the numbers have proved it as you've seen.
If we do get a second hit later we'll need to do the same, but I think we'll once again be the winners in that event. We'll be helped by not having so many immediately vulnerable since they've already taken the hit first time.
The government's strategy of spreading the hit over time might have been acceptable for places where social isolation can be effective, but definitely not for here.
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I think Herd Immunity is an interesting strategy which of course would not work as it requires at least 70% of the population to catch covid then become immune. You then have to assume 70% actually want to catch it and if like me they don't then it would take a very long time to achieve, apparently it takes 1-2 years to achieve herd immunity anyway. People are coming out of their shells now lockdown is partially lifted but they would soon scurry back in again if the death rate shot up unexpectedly God forbid, so what price herd immunity then.
Just read flecc's post above and I would concede for London it probably is the best outcome, but of course London is but one city. How about Manchester, Birmingham and other large cities what would be best for them ? ok if you don't live there it doesn't matter directly to you but it would if people travelled from those places to your town/city bringing it with them. Some towns had signs lit up on major roads saying to would be visitors and holiday makers "Don't Come Here" to stop covid spreading, almost unbelievable really.
Just read flecc's post above and I would concede for London it probably is the best outcome, but of course London is but one city. How about Manchester, Birmingham and other large cities what would be best for them ? ok if you don't live there it doesn't matter directly to you but it would if people travelled from those places to your town/city bringing it with them. Some towns had signs lit up on major roads saying to would be visitors and holiday makers "Don't Come Here" to stop covid spreading, almost unbelievable really.
Flecc, I don't think the herd immunity notion has any credibility. I suspect that Londoners are not flocking to underground stations, are socially distancing in so far as they can, probably holding their breath while passing close to other people . Obviously I am not there to check, but the few video images I see goes not show hoards.Possibly not, but we've once again turned in very low figures in London with the graph at the bottom. And as you know, we didn't do that through strict lockdown but with taking the hit early.
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to new research suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
The research by Public Health England and Cambridge University suggests London could be coronavirus-free as soon as June, based on new modelling statistics.
The capital’s virus reproduction rate – known as R – has fallen to 0.4, compared to around 2.8 before lockdown.
That gives London the lowest R rate in the country, according to the University of Cambridge’s MRC Biostatistics Unit.
.London counts 'just 24' new coronavirus cases per day
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to a new report suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
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Funnily enough there was some pictures on tv a while back showing commuters packing on the London Tube, but then again other reports featured empty landmarks like Piccadilly Circus devoid of people.
The media just shows want it wants at the time to prove a point it's trying to make.
The media just shows want it wants at the time to prove a point it's trying to make.
I find that difficult to believe when the official national new daily cases still running at 2000-3000 a day.
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There’s currently an annoying helicopter circling around while I’m trying to work. I assume it’s the police checking that, as per the latest government guidance, everyone’s doing whatever the **** they like.
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There’s currently an annoying helicopter circling around while I’m trying to work. I assume it’s the police checking that, as per the latest government guidance, everyone’s doing whatever the **** they like.
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Jolly convenient too, which rings alarm bells, even though good news is always welcomePossibly not, but we've once again turned in very low figures in London with the graph at the bottom. And as you know, we didn't do that through strict lockdown but with taking the hit early.
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to new research suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
The research by Public Health England and Cambridge University suggests London could be coronavirus-free as soon as June, based on new modelling statistics.
The capital’s virus reproduction rate – known as R – has fallen to 0.4, compared to around 2.8 before lockdown.
That gives London the lowest R rate in the country, according to the University of Cambridge’s MRC Biostatistics Unit.
.London counts 'just 24' new coronavirus cases per day
Fewer than 24 people are now catching coronavirus on a daily basis in London, according to a new report suggesting the capital could soon be virus-free.
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So long as it is accurate.