That`s a bit of a coincidence......... one of those just landed yesterday at RAF Aldergrove (Co. Antrim, N.I.)
There has been speculation of the Army getting prepared to build field hospitals here.
Brexit, for once some facts.
- Thread starter flecc
- Start date
There has been speculation of the Army getting prepared to build field hospitals here.
Maybe. But maybe not. Wales has a higher cases rate.
| Country | 2018 population | Total cases | Deaths | % deaths | Cases / pop |
| England | 55,977,178 | 76,371 | 11,656 | 15.3% | 0.14% |
| Northern Ireland | 3,138,631 | 2,088 | 134 | 6.4% | 0.07% |
| Scotland | 5,438,100 | 6,748 | 615 | 9.1% | 0.12% |
| Wales | 3,138,631 | 6,118 | 463 | 7.6% | 0.19% |
Here's an example of the futility of some separations, Waitrose in Limpsfield Road, South Croydon.
On a rather space restricted site, the staff have set up a customer queuing system in their car park similar to that in some public areas a few years ago, zig zagging in parallel rows.
So one queues safely two metres face to back behind the person in front in one direction, then reverses at the end to queue in the opposite direction alongside, face to face, and separated by only a barrier tape and one metre at most!
Someone clearly wasn't thinking!
Either that or they think Waitrose's upper crust customers couldn't possibly be as infectious as the hoi poloi.
.
On a rather space restricted site, the staff have set up a customer queuing system in their car park similar to that in some public areas a few years ago, zig zagging in parallel rows.
So one queues safely two metres face to back behind the person in front in one direction, then reverses at the end to queue in the opposite direction alongside, face to face, and separated by only a barrier tape and one metre at most!
Someone clearly wasn't thinking!
Either that or they think Waitrose's upper crust customers couldn't possibly be as infectious as the hoi poloi.
.
Last edited:
I have not seen the stories myself, but a very trustworthy person said reports claimed it was operating out of Brize Norton. The only possible runway near here is Brawdy - but I do not know if it landed.
Here, Lidl, Aldi, M&S, even Tesco, have more or less straight queues. Morrisons zig-zags back on itself - I say, bonkers.
Not too bad at present with pleasant weather. I really don't fancy queing outside, in the open, in pissing down rain and strong winds (the usual weather
).
Last edited:
Viral load is also a factor as Danidl has posted. but apart from that the density is still a factor in the death rate. That's because all of London is a much unhealthier place to live with very high pollution rates and much higher numbers normally dying in consequence with respiratory illnesses. And it's those with respiratory problems who are the most likely to die from a coronavirus infection.
.
Rhondda Conan, Taff; Blanaau Gwent; and Caerphilly are considerably worse than most of London, based on this link:
https://statistics.blf.org.uk/lung-disease-uk-big-picture
I agree and can foresee big trouble when the weather changes as it certainly will eventually. People just won't put up with standing outside in rain and a biting easterly for up to an hour.I really don't fancy queing outide, in the open, in pissing down rain and strong wonds (the usual weather
Another Sainburys near me is ok though, their car park is under the building and the queue is underground around it and leading to the trolley escalator up to the shopping floor.
.
We have extremely lmited outside covered areas - I have never understood why even recent shops on purpose-built retail areas don't have a continuous canopy. Typically, just a token one immediately over their doors.
Department of Health and Social Care
@DHSCgovuk
·
1h
Today the second NHS Nightingale hospital @NightingaleBham will officially open at @thenec
This will create extra capacity to ease pressure on hospitals across the Midlands in response to the #coronavirus outbreak. @NHSEngland Quote Tweet
NHS Nightingale Birmingham
@NightingaleBham
· Apr 8
NHS Nightingale Birmingham, led by @uhbtrust, will open its doors soon. The hospital will provide extra capacity to local services dealing with the increased number of patients during the peak of coronavirus. https://pic.twitter.com/1XXpsWiFe1
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Never mind easing pressure on Hospitals, what about victims in care homes being left to die?
@DHSCgovuk
·
1h
Today the second NHS Nightingale hospital @NightingaleBham will officially open at @thenec
This will create extra capacity to ease pressure on hospitals across the Midlands in response to the #coronavirus outbreak. @NHSEngland Quote Tweet
NHS Nightingale Birmingham
@NightingaleBham
· Apr 8
NHS Nightingale Birmingham, led by @uhbtrust, will open its doors soon. The hospital will provide extra capacity to local services dealing with the increased number of patients during the peak of coronavirus. https://pic.twitter.com/1XXpsWiFe1
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Never mind easing pressure on Hospitals, what about victims in care homes being left to die?
These hotspots are everywhere of course, I have the worst one in Europe near me, according to the EU, who have threatened to fine the UK in the past if they didn't correct it.
The trouble with London's polution is London's size, 400 square miles isn't easy to escape from for fresh air, especially when the London sprawl reaches many miles beyond its boundaries.
.
Funny story in my local rag of a pair of of over 70s out for a ramble and spotting and reporting some young cyclists 'gang of youngsters' - police turned up and took the elderly couple back home with a reminder that they should stay in isolation at home due to their age - lucky they didn't get an ol' fashioned clip round the ear...
there may be some statistical truth in that.
In Wales, temporary hospitals are not being called Nightingale.Department of Health and Social Care
@DHSCgovuk
·
1h
Today the second NHS Nightingale hospital @NightingaleBham will officially open at @thenec
This will create extra capacity to ease pressure on hospitals across the Midlands in response to the #coronavirus outbreak. @NHSEngland Quote Tweet
NHS Nightingale Birmingham
@NightingaleBham
· Apr 8
NHS Nightingale Birmingham, led by @uhbtrust, will open its doors soon. The hospital will provide extra capacity to local services dealing with the increased number of patients during the peak of coronavirus. https://pic.twitter.com/1XXpsWiFe1
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
Never mind easing pressure on Hospitals, what about victims in care homes being left to die?
Cardiff's Principality Stadium
Ysbyty Calon Y Ddraig or Dragon's Heart Hospital
Venue Cymru in Llandudno, Conwy
Ysbyty'r Enfys - The Rainbow Hospital
There are others but two seem enough to illustrate!
And on a practical Brexit note...
thenewsdump.co.uk
The first of six specially chartered flights from Romania to London will land on Thursday afternoon carrying 150 people to assist British farmers pick fruit and vegetables.
Despite a high profile "Pick for Britain" campaign appealing to students and laid-off hospitality workers to help with the harvest, not enough British workers have come forward.
The six flights were privately chartered by large UK food producers and will land between now and June.
The National Farmers Union estimates a shortage of 70,000 seasonal farm workers that has been exacerbated by the Covid 19 lockdown.
Before boarding, the prospective workers will have their temperatures checked, fill out a health questionnaire and be given masks and hand sanitiser. On arrival in the UK, they will be taken by bus to farms in East Anglia to pick lettuce.
Mark Bridgeman, the president of the Country Land and Business Association, said bringing in workers from overseas to help meet the shortfall was "the right thing to do if we want to keep the supermarkets stocked".
'Please come back' vans sent to Eastern Europe
The Home Office is sending 'Please come back' van's to Eastern Europe to encourage workers to pick UK crops.
thenewsdump.co.uk
The first of six specially chartered flights from Romania to London will land on Thursday afternoon carrying 150 people to assist British farmers pick fruit and vegetables.
Despite a high profile "Pick for Britain" campaign appealing to students and laid-off hospitality workers to help with the harvest, not enough British workers have come forward.
The six flights were privately chartered by large UK food producers and will land between now and June.
The National Farmers Union estimates a shortage of 70,000 seasonal farm workers that has been exacerbated by the Covid 19 lockdown.
Before boarding, the prospective workers will have their temperatures checked, fill out a health questionnaire and be given masks and hand sanitiser. On arrival in the UK, they will be taken by bus to farms in East Anglia to pick lettuce.
Mark Bridgeman, the president of the Country Land and Business Association, said bringing in workers from overseas to help meet the shortfall was "the right thing to do if we want to keep the supermarkets stocked".
But it is NOT OK for me to go out for two shorts walks, keeping away from everyone else?And on a practical Brexit note...
'Please come back' vans sent to Eastern Europe
The Home Office is sending 'Please come back' van's to Eastern Europe to encourage workers to pick UK crops.
The first of six specially chartered flights from Romania to London will land on Thursday afternoon carrying 150 people to assist British farmers pick fruit and vegetables.
Despite a high profile "Pick for Britain" campaign appealing to students and laid-off hospitality workers to help with the harvest, not enough British workers have come forward.
The six flights were privately chartered by large UK food producers and will land between now and June.
The National Farmers Union estimates a shortage of 70,000 seasonal farm workers that has been exacerbated by the Covid 19 lockdown.
Before boarding, the prospective workers will have their temperatures checked, fill out a health questionnaire and be given masks and hand sanitiser. On arrival in the UK, they will be taken by bus to farms in East Anglia to pick lettuce.
Mark Bridgeman, the president of the Country Land and Business Association, said bringing in workers from overseas to help meet the shortfall was "the right thing to do if we want to keep the supermarkets stocked".
Raaaaaabbbbbbb.....
Coronavirus UK live: No 10 claims Covid-19 crisis strengthens need for UK to be free of EU regulation after 2020
Foreign secretary Dominic Raab to lead meetings on Covid-19 physical distancing measures as sources say ministers have no lockdown exit plan
Coronavirus UK live: No 10 claims Covid-19 crisis strengthens need for UK to be free of EU regulation after 2020
Foreign secretary Dominic Raab to lead meetings on Covid-19 physical distancing measures as sources say ministers have no lockdown exit plan
Tommie, in the interests of fairness perhaps you would post an update on the allegations against the Roscommon businessman ..see todays Irish Times
For the rest of you..
1. It appears that the Roscommon businessman was also a victim and an honest broker,and is cooperating fully and voluntarily with the Gardai
2. The 1.5 million euro, has been identified and returned to its German owners .
Meanwhile the Craigavon lorry driver linked to the Vietnamese deaths near London has pleaded guilty and is in prison in the UK.
For the rest of you..
1. It appears that the Roscommon businessman was also a victim and an honest broker,and is cooperating fully and voluntarily with the Gardai
2. The 1.5 million euro, has been identified and returned to its German owners .
Meanwhile the Craigavon lorry driver linked to the Vietnamese deaths near London has pleaded guilty and is in prison in the UK.
I watched 'The Plague' yesterday on the History channel. It was amazing the similarities between the events of 1348 and now, the rich hiding away in their castles trying to distance themselves from commoners etc.
So much to learn from the past, but of course just like now it won't be.
So much to learn from the past, but of course just like now it won't be.
This is another example of how our idiot police anger me.
The government's website is very clear that there is no such restriction on the elderly and they can go out for daily exercise like everyone else.
This belief that all the over 70s should be in isolation at home is a fantasy, there has never been any such ruling. That advice (not law) only ever applied to the over 70s with symptoms of Covid-19.
.
Last edited: