You seem to miss the point.
They know they are waiting longer. Seeing less doctors and nurses.
But despite this they would rather vote for more of the same than vote Corbyn.
He is hated that much. They would rather die than vote for him.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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You seem to miss the point.
They know they are waiting longer. Seeing less doctors and nurses.
But despite this they would rather vote for more of the same than vote Corbyn.
He is hated that much. They would rather die than vote for him.
No, they just dislike Corbyn and momentum more tjan they dislike Tories. Corbyn and labour have been stuck in a bubble and lost contact with electotate. Campbell made lots of good points. Labour need him back. If Labour dont stop blaming media, Boris, Trump, Electorate, Farage, anybody, they will be in wilderness for years.
Labour must change. If not they are doomed. For years.
Momentum need to go and take Corbyn with them.
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No point really in going over old arguments, what happens next is what matters, and in that respect the labour and other parties are irrelevant.
How Johnson handles events and policies will not be judged in the HOC, but by public reaction.
We need to be patient for several months and await responses there .
What happens in Parliament is of secondary concern, as events are now running in an unrestricted way that cannot be affected by any parliamentary opposition.
It is all turning out as predicted unfortunately.
Give it time....
When things go wrong a ringleader will appear, most likely Farage floating a new "popular front"
This election is good news for the Labour party in the long term, and will do nothing to re unite the country.
How Johnson handles events and policies will not be judged in the HOC, but by public reaction.
We need to be patient for several months and await responses there .
What happens in Parliament is of secondary concern, as events are now running in an unrestricted way that cannot be affected by any parliamentary opposition.
It is all turning out as predicted unfortunately.
Give it time....
When things go wrong a ringleader will appear, most likely Farage floating a new "popular front"
This election is good news for the Labour party in the long term, and will do nothing to re unite the country.
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Well.
I thought this day might come.
Don't mess with democracy - labour get exactly what they deserved.
Swinson and her you can pick your own sex nonsense - got what she deserved too.
I know lots of you will be disappointed - I suppose this was all down to the Russians and everybody didn't know what they were voting for again huh?
Our economy will now not be wrecked by the most irresponsible borrowing plans I have ever seen in my entire political life - and an absolutely diabolical leader.
And we'll get some form of Brexit done.
I thought this day might come.
Don't mess with democracy - labour get exactly what they deserved.
Swinson and her you can pick your own sex nonsense - got what she deserved too.
I know lots of you will be disappointed - I suppose this was all down to the Russians and everybody didn't know what they were voting for again huh?
Our economy will now not be wrecked by the most irresponsible borrowing plans I have ever seen in my entire political life - and an absolutely diabolical leader.
And we'll get some form of Brexit done.
Corbyn is a loser. That's the word you were looking for.
There IS for all the people who voted Tory.
Some of you guys really seem to struggle with this whole 'democracy' thing.
I’m surprised at the scale of the Conservative victory. I wasn’t expecting that. This is entirely down to Labour being totally detached from public opinion.
They thought that if they screamed and spat bile at anyone who disagreed with them for long enough, they would eventually come round.
I think that many Labour policies had merit and I would have voted for them, it’s was just the bolt-on craziness which put me off. Things like fifty eight thousand million pounds worth of extra and unplanned spend dreamt up in under 48 hours.
The same can be said for the LibDems. They almost had it spot on under Tim Farron, then they appointed wannabe PM Jo Swindon who introduced Labour style bolt-on craziness. Now she’s lost her own seat and a massive pile of ironing awaits her.
Why can’t they understand, people just want more investment in public services, a fair and even increase in taxation to pay for it, if necessary. That’s about it, people aren’t interested in whether Greggs are selling gender neutral sausage rolls and all the other bolt-on crap. It puts folk off.
They thought that if they screamed and spat bile at anyone who disagreed with them for long enough, they would eventually come round.
I think that many Labour policies had merit and I would have voted for them, it’s was just the bolt-on craziness which put me off. Things like fifty eight thousand million pounds worth of extra and unplanned spend dreamt up in under 48 hours.
The same can be said for the LibDems. They almost had it spot on under Tim Farron, then they appointed wannabe PM Jo Swindon who introduced Labour style bolt-on craziness. Now she’s lost her own seat and a massive pile of ironing awaits her.
Why can’t they understand, people just want more investment in public services, a fair and even increase in taxation to pay for it, if necessary. That’s about it, people aren’t interested in whether Greggs are selling gender neutral sausage rolls and all the other bolt-on crap. It puts folk off.
Have your little gloat, reality will destroy any notion that Brexit is a good idea soon enough as Boris makes a balls up of it!
Actually you are the one who struggles with Democracy,
You are no judge of character are you?
And now you have made yourself accomplice in what this regime does next.
Your idea of democracy is simply that using lies to con the public into believing harming themselves is a good idea is a reasonable methodology.
Now your clown is going to have to come up with "The best society in the world to live in"
And the responsibility for the mess will sink the Tory party like a stone
Imagine trusting the fate of the nation to a man that couldn't even manage to prevent producing unwanted children that he accidentally fathered to women he used and discarded.
And he has to be managed to prevent him making racist remarks ,
He has made a balls up every job he's ever had.
Great qualification to give him the PM position
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You'll get some form of Brexit done alright, and it will at best not wreck the economy, but it it will wreck the future for the nation and turn us into a has been nation in a downward spiral.
That is until sanity returns and we rejoin the EU
What's in this Brexit for you?
I forgot to mention something in my earlier post. I think it will be a mistake for the tinfoil hat brigade to start blaming Russia for the Tory victory. Labour just needs to drop the crazies and come up with some realistic public spending plans and all will be good.
How bad as Corbyn got to be for him to lose Durham and Notting Hill? Wake up OG. This result is purely built on the total dislike of Corbyn and his utter ineptitude in eyes of highest majority for Tory in recent history.
Unless Labour changes in all ways I, ve said no matter what happens Labour will never get in power.
The countries' electorate has changed, it wont change back, Labour has still not waken up to fact.
This strong Tory government is totally the fault of Corbyn and Momentum.
We should have had a Labour government for months, if it werent for the extremists we, d have one.
Suggesting this is a good result for Labour in long run is utter rubbish. They are in danger of becoming a minority party.
My area (Rothervalley) has been Labour since 1918. Its now conservative. Ex miners, steel workers and folk who experienced and witnessed Thatcher arrresting Scargill have voted Tory in their droves.
Its beyond a landslide.
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Wake up? what are you on about? I am not supporting Corbyn am I?
Move on from this personality blame game, which if you care to remember is actually the responsibility of people who voted for Brexit in the first place, and created this madness.
Corbyn is history now, and if you care to read my previous posts more carefully, the last thing I wanted was for Labour to be in a position to pick up blame for Brexit.
And yet here you are blaming them or rather one man, namely Corbyn for failing to rescue you from your mistake in voting for Brexit!
You fell for the lies and promises back then, yet blame Corbyn for the fact that people still fall for the same sort if lies you did?
You can simply dismiss any hope of Parliament blocking what the Conservative do they will finish what the Brexit voters started.
Labour no longer matters it is neutered.
Until Boris fails
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Corbyn and Head Girl / Prefect Swindon won this election for Johnson. He just had to turn up.
Come on OG. Give yourself a break. Go make a cup of tea and have a digestive biscuit. Oxygen levels are good. Gravity is working fine. All is well.
And here comes the analysis and the 'I'll tell you why this happened'!
Ha. Humans. Such cute creatures.