Brexit, for once some facts.
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Reminds me of the old rock number
"That ain't working]
That's the way to do it,
Money for nothing
and the ships come free!"
Well, close enough.
How odd that Bojo wouldn't help Thomas Cook because of some phony Moral question yet the government gave this charlatan £5 Million?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2219673-cancelled-dyson-electric-car-project-received-5m-from-uk-government/
"However, the project involved the UK government giving millions of pounds in funding. The firm told New Scientist that it had drawn down £5 million of a £16 million grant to support the project. "
Righto, hand it back! plus interest too.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2219673-cancelled-dyson-electric-car-project-received-5m-from-uk-government/
"However, the project involved the UK government giving millions of pounds in funding. The firm told New Scientist that it had drawn down £5 million of a £16 million grant to support the project. "
Righto, hand it back! plus interest too.
Except for those stuck in retail who I always feel sorry for.
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Agreed. I saw a woman delivering people’s Amazon treasure in her own car at 20:00 a couple of Sundays ago. She had a child with her who only looked about 4 years old. That’s not quality family time and no good can come of that working lifestyle. Not blaming the woman, it’s the way people put money in the household these days. We’ve gone wrong somewhere.
More nonsense from Dyson, trying to kid us he's developed a fantastic new e-car in a few months. Truth is he's suddenly realised it's far more difficult than he thought, just what happened to Clive Sinclair, another like Dyson full of crackpot ideas.
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However good his batteries and motors might be, a fully functioning car and an effective production line are much harder. Likely he would have to buy in at least some of that - and any possible suppliers probably have their own irons already in the fire. So any deal would have been very expensive.
If his batteries and motors really were that wonderful, someone else might have bought the project.
I disagree. How difficult can it be to design a car? Apparently Victoria Beckham designed the Range Rover Evoque and it’s $hit-hot. She’s got her spring rate to damping ratio calculations spot on, it’s a superb ride. Same with her finite element stress modelling of the monocoque chassis. The transition from the CAD model to production prototype was extremely close.
Her singing is poxed, but if the Mail celebrity pages are to be believed, she’s a great vehicle design engineer.
Thats brilliant, so my next door neighbours son ,was lieing when he brought over the prototype to show his mammy and daddy!.. I always thought they were too smarmy by half.
In the Express
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‘Stitch-up isn’t a deal!’ Boris Johnson’s deal savaged by Brexiteers in Express poll
BORIS JOHNSON’s breakthrough with the EU has been rubbished by voters in an exclusive Express.co.uk poll who are adamant talks will break down between Britain and the bloc.
The Prime Minister’s negotiating stance with the relentless EU has sparked scepticism from 75 percent of those who took part. Mr Johnson has been accused of recycling Remainer Theresa May’s tired, old deal and whitewashing it as his own in order to secure a breakthrough with Ireland’s Leo Varadkar. Around 2,695 believe talks with Brussels will collapse as the Brexit deadline is now just 20 days away. "
The reader comments are not favourable!
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‘Stitch-up isn’t a deal!’ Boris Johnson’s deal savaged by Brexiteers in Express poll
BORIS JOHNSON’s breakthrough with the EU has been rubbished by voters in an exclusive Express.co.uk poll who are adamant talks will break down between Britain and the bloc.
The Prime Minister’s negotiating stance with the relentless EU has sparked scepticism from 75 percent of those who took part. Mr Johnson has been accused of recycling Remainer Theresa May’s tired, old deal and whitewashing it as his own in order to secure a breakthrough with Ireland’s Leo Varadkar. Around 2,695 believe talks with Brussels will collapse as the Brexit deadline is now just 20 days away. "
The reader comments are not favourable!
Fascinating take from Sky News
https://news.sky.com/story/johnsons-brexit-proposal-creates-illusion-of-victory-for-both-sides-11833165
This paragraph is cogent
"Meanwhile, Mr Johnson's Brexit plan paves the way for Great Britain to be subject to the hardest possible Brexit, potentially allowing for a reworking of the entire economic and social model towards low-tax low-regulation states with small safety nets, such as Singapore. "
Which is a guarantee of trouble in the streets when the public finally understand the significance of what has been done, allegedly in their name.
The 52% have in fact screwed themselves and also the rest of the population to make the 1% richer and able to ruin everyone else's lives.
https://news.sky.com/story/johnsons-brexit-proposal-creates-illusion-of-victory-for-both-sides-11833165
This paragraph is cogent
"Meanwhile, Mr Johnson's Brexit plan paves the way for Great Britain to be subject to the hardest possible Brexit, potentially allowing for a reworking of the entire economic and social model towards low-tax low-regulation states with small safety nets, such as Singapore. "
Which is a guarantee of trouble in the streets when the public finally understand the significance of what has been done, allegedly in their name.
The 52% have in fact screwed themselves and also the rest of the population to make the 1% richer and able to ruin everyone else's lives.
The plan sounds ripe for illegal exploitation if the rates differ between UK and EU. Which will not be a good thing at all. Or the differences are made so small as to provide no incentive to do so. Hence, why? Just remain and avoid the issues.
Just a littlel reminder of what he said then...
Boris Johnson: Brexit would not affect Irish border
The mayor of London was in Northern Ireland on Monday just 48 hours after Prime Minister David Cameron's visit.
Mr Johnson announced a £62m order for County Antrim firm Wrightbus.
However, ahead of June's EU referendum he has discussed why he thinks the UK would be better off outside the European Union.
He told the BBC a Brexit would leave arrangements on the Irish border "absolutely unchanged".
"There's been a free travel area between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland for, I think, getting on for 100 years," he said.
"There's no reason at all why that should cease to be the case."
Northern Ireland farming relies heavily on EU subsidies, but Mr Johnson said NI farmers would be no worse off outside the EU and "in many ways better off".
"You would be able to target the subsidy and we'd be getting money back from the EU that currently goes to Brussels and goes on heaven knows what," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35692452
Border AND Wrightbus AND subsidies.
Boris Johnson: Brexit would not affect Irish border
- 29 February 2016
The mayor of London was in Northern Ireland on Monday just 48 hours after Prime Minister David Cameron's visit.
Mr Johnson announced a £62m order for County Antrim firm Wrightbus.
However, ahead of June's EU referendum he has discussed why he thinks the UK would be better off outside the European Union.
He told the BBC a Brexit would leave arrangements on the Irish border "absolutely unchanged".
"There's been a free travel area between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland for, I think, getting on for 100 years," he said.
"There's no reason at all why that should cease to be the case."
Northern Ireland farming relies heavily on EU subsidies, but Mr Johnson said NI farmers would be no worse off outside the EU and "in many ways better off".
"You would be able to target the subsidy and we'd be getting money back from the EU that currently goes to Brussels and goes on heaven knows what," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35692452
Border AND Wrightbus AND subsidies.
I regret to say but BJs level of knowledge at that time is about par for UK front line politicians who don't actually work in NI.
if I were in JC's shoes, I would want brexit done so to remove the reason for millions to vote for the tories.
Problem is whoosh is Corbyn is utterly unelectable.
I don't have a massive problem with his ideals. But he cannot convince people that have passing interest in politics.
He is too old and set in his ways. If you don't believe he is not interested.
It's a catastrophe imo.