Brexit, for once some facts.

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Even my old Tom Tom had that facility,and would give lane change warnings ,when in a country outside its home territory
My brother(who has a place in France) has a transparent sticker on the windscreen.2b.jpg
Because it's transparent, you can reverse it when you get back to the UK.
 
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Its not the Daily Mail, its called moral decency. You miss the point. DI has nothing to do with protecting dangerous drivers unfortunately its an avoidable but morally wrong consequence of preventing harassment by host country.
DI is not about protecting dangerous drivers. It is about protecting certain people, by prior agreement, from actions carried out in the host country. The person with DI is still subject to the laws of their home country.
The moral decency argument is threadbare... The UK Government could easily enjoin with the Dunnes in seeking a criminal damages case in US courts. Fundamentally the offence occured in a moving bubble of US territory surrounding that American woman.
 

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DI is not about protecting dangerous drivers. It is about protecting certain people, by prior agreement, from actions carried out in the host country. The person with DI is still subject to the laws of their home country.
The moral decency argument is threadbare... The UK Government could easily enjoin with the Dunnes in seeking a criminal damages case in US courts. Fundamentally the offence occured in a moving bubble of US territory surrounding that American woman.
On this occasion Danidl is correct (even a broken clock is right twice a day) if DI was removed for traffic accidents, some regimes would start staging crashes or throwing the locals under diplomats cars.
 
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some regimes would start staging crashes or throwing the locals under diplomats cars.
They don't need such additional methods, they manage ok without.

Like the way the Saudis lured dissident Jamal Khashoggi into their Turkish consulate, killed him, cut him up and shipped out the body parts as diplomatic packages.
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They don't need such additional methods, they manage ok without.

Like the way the Saudis lured dissident Jamal Khashoggi into their Turkish consulate, killed him, cut him up and shipped out the body parts as diplomatic packages.
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I was referring to implicating diplomats, not getting rid of locals by throwing them under cars.
 
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Ignoring your foul language and concentrating on the facts. DI existed as a high level agreement between two sovereign states, and will not be subject to the whims of even a paper as important as the Daily Mail. The moment the aircraft entered US airspace,her DI status expired. This woman is back in the USA,and cannot be expelled from there,..only extradited. To be extradited, means that an application must be made to the courts there, and a judge must agree that the UKs request is valid. It is not in the power of the American Government to extradite her. The US Government CAN refuse to entertain a petition to extradite,on the grounds that DI was in force at the time of the alleged offence. Even if the US Gov. declines ,the Judge in the USA may rule the DI was a sufficient defence.
I have suggested that the Dunne family could take a civil action in the US courts
Why can’t you write normally?

you have lost your moral compass, if you ever had one.
 

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Why can’t you write normally?

you have lost your moral compass, if you ever had one.
My car's got one of those, recently when I hit some deep water on the M62 it disapproved of where I was steering the car, announced "Steering intervention initiated" steered the car out of trouble then smug as you like announced "Steering intervention terminated" and gave me control back.
It's bad enough having the wife in the car.
Now I have two of them at it!

Now if we could fit this system to politicians... :cool:
 
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They don't need such additional methods, they manage ok without.

Like the way the Saudis lured dissident Jamal Khashoggi into their Turkish consulate, killed him, cut him up and shipped out the body parts as diplomatic packages.
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The primary interest by the host states security service would be in getting to the SECRETs held by the DI person. What better way than staging car accidents and then hauling the diplomats car away for forensic examination. The Saudi event, was a gross violation of every norm.
 

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Yes facts and logic are sooo inconvenient, they get in the way of a good rant.
Agreed, but your posts don’t qualify as logic. They consist of incorrect information wrapped in garbage language and superfluous words.

You seem to be driven and motivated by a nasty, peevish anti U.K. makeup in your DNA.

There is a family here that have had their son killed and the suspect has fled by perverting and abusing the system of Diplomatic Immunity. Diplomatic Immunity was never intended or designed to be used in such a way. Why can’t you understand this, little man?
 
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Agreed, but your posts don’t qualify as logic. They consist of incorrect information wrapped in garbage language and superfluous words.

You seem to be driven and motivated by a nasty, peevish anti U.K. makeup in your DNA.

There is a family here that have had their son killed and the suspect has fled by perverting and abusing the system of Diplomatic Immunity. Diplomatic Immunity was never intended or designed to be used in such a way. Why can’t you understand this, little man?
This was exactly the type of function that DI was intended to protect against...As Daveboys posting indicates.
Now can you identify in any one of the many hundreds of posting where I have made, where I have been anti UK?. I have 2 brothers and a sister currently living in the UK. The majority of my brother's and sisters have been employed there over the years. So no I am not anti UK.
I am assured that I am of average height.
I have suggested a legal method by which the bereaved family could obtain closure and possibly financial recompense... Taking a case in the USA courts. But your rant cannot see that . The death of ones child is one of the most difficult events in a family life, but vengeance will not bring him back. There is no mystery as to how,when or where he died,and in some small measure that might be a comfort.
 
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This was exactly the type of function that DI was intended to protect against...As Daveboys posting indicates.
Now can you identify in any one of the many hundreds of posting where I have made, where I have been anti UK?. I have 2 brothers and a sister currently living in the UK. The majority of my brother's and sisters have been employed there over the years. So no I am not anti UK.
I am assured that I am of average height.
I have suggested a legal method by which the bereaved family could obtain closure and possibly financial recompense... Taking a case in the USA courts. But your rant cannot see that . The death of ones child is one of the most difficult events in a family life, but vengeance will not bring him back. There is no mystery as to how,when or where he died,and in some small measure that might be a comfort.
The majority of your brother's what?
You lecture folk on grammar, content and god knows what but haven't a clue about using question marks or the apostrophe.
Are you sure you were a lecturer?
You should have used an apostrophe in Daveboys. The post was his. It should have been "Daveboy's"
And you used posting as a plural. It needed an "s" on the end. You also missed an apostrophe on "ones". It should have been "one's".
I, d stop lecturing if I were you. You aren't very good at it.
Surely they were all deliberate mistakes including the meaning, which could just about be worked out.
Basically your post was rubbish in every respect.
DI was not intended to protect diplomats' wives driving on wrong side of road.It was designed to prevent unwarranted harassment not justified.
Flustered again Danidl?
 
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50Hertz

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Your brother's what...
You lecture folk on grammar, content and god knows what but haven't a clue about using question marks or the apostrophe.
Are you sure you were a lecturer?
You should have used an apostrophe in Daveboys. The post was his. It should have been "Daveboy's"
And you used posting as a plural. It needed an "s" on the end. You also missed an apostrophe on "ones". It should have been "one's".
I, d stop lecturing if I were you. You aren't very good at it.
Surely they were all deliberate mistakes including the meaning, which could just about be worked out.
He’s not a lecturer, he’s frustrated with his disappointing academic achievement, that comes through in the type of language he uses and his poor sentence construction.

He’s a wannabe academic, short of the talent requirements to get there.
 

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The majority of your brother's what?
You lecture folk on grammar, content and god knows what but haven't a clue about using question marks or the apostrophe.
Are you sure you were a lecturer?
You should have used an apostrophe in Daveboys. The post was his. It should have been "Daveboy's"
And you used posting as a plural. It needed an "s" on the end. You also missed an apostrophe on "ones". It should have been "one's".
I, d stop lecturing if I were you. You aren't very good at it.
Surely they were all deliberate mistakes including the meaning, which could just about be worked out.
Basically your post was rubbish in every respect.
DI was not intended to protect diplomats' wives driving on wrong side of road.
Flustered again Danidl?
Actually I have never lectured on Grammar. And yes my days as lecturer are over.
 

Danidl

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Actually I have never lectured on Grammar. And yes my days as lecturer are over.
These attempts at deflection are pathetic.
You might choose to consider my disregard for punctuation, when dealing with your posts as contempt. I did explain that I use an on screen tablet keyboard ,and editing is just hard work.
 

Zlatan

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Actually I have never lectured on Grammar. And yes my days as lecturer are over.
Well I am shocked and you have lectured on most topics in here, including grammar.(As grammar is not a proper noun it does not require a capital)
Let us all hope so, for your last statement.(I assume you mean "as a lecturer".)
 
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Zlatan

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These attempts at deflection are pathetic.
You might choose to consider my disregard for punctuation, when dealing with your posts as contempt. I did explain that I use an on screen tablet keyboard ,and editing is just hard work.
Well, yes for poorly educated perhaps.
You find using grammar correctly difficult and editing after it's misuse even more so. Quite an admission for a lecturer in anything and on everything.
Suspect 50 has you sussed.
 
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flecc

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And you used posting as a plural. It needed an "s" on the end.
Just to offset the "all let's gang up on Danidl aspect present here", his use of posting was correct and an "s" wasn't necessary. He was using posting in the verbal sense as his pluralising of the following word "indicates" shows.

For example, if you'd been typing some postings and someone asked what you'd been doing, you might say "I've been posting". You wouldn't say "I've been postings".
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