Brexit, for once some facts.
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Cummings and Boris - the dream ticket!
Both arguably at the genius end of the IQ spectrum.
You say he was a disaster as London mayor - but then how come he got voted back in for a second term?
they are good at making up fake headlines, I give you that.
(as in take 'back' control).
You do recognize the irony of comparing boris to einstein? Suggesting he engages in independent thought, rather than exploit the (unpleasant, xenophobic) flavour of the day for self promotion?
I've already answered that. As I said then and as one of OG's quotes confirms, in the first term he just followed Ken Livingstones successful policies while only beginning to introduce his own ideas.
Once his own ideas showed their true lack of worth in the second term and the damage he did to Ken's policies was apparent, he saw half way through that he had no future there and sought a parliamentary seat instead in Uxbridge and South Ruislip.
And even there he showed his true colours. The local party didn't want a part time MP and asked him to promise he would not resume his journalism if elected. He gave that solemn promise, but only a few months later was writing for The Spectator again.
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The fuller quotation is...
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.
He would also have said in the same vein...
This topic [the importance of individuality] brings me to that worst out-crop of the herd nature, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; a backbone was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism by order, senseless violence, and all the pestilent nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how I hate them! War seems to me a mean, contemptible thing: I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business. And yet so high, in spite of everything, is my opinion of the human race that I believe this bogey would have disappeared long ago, had the sound sense of the nations not been systematically corrupted by commercial and political interests acting through the schools and the press.
Albert Einstein, (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel
BJ is in office because people voted for Brexit, and for no other reason.
Or even yours, but they are your best hope for Brexit
Come to think of it how about explaining what it means now?
This was how it was advertised before the Referendum
(1) More money for the NHS
Vote Leave’s battle bus said: “We send the EU £350 million a week. Let’s fund our NHS instead”
“Instead of sending £350 million per week to Brussels, we will spend it on our priorities like the NHS and education.” – Vote Leave briefing
“After we Vote Leave on 23 June, the Government should use some of the billions saved from leaving the EU to give at least a £100 million per week cash transfusion to the NHS.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, and Gisela Stuart
(2) More money for farmers
“The UK government will continue to give farmers and the environment as much support – or perhaps even more – as they get now.” – George Eustice, Minister for Farming, Food and Marine Environment
(3) More money for scientists
“If we Vote Leave, we will be able to increase funding to science and still save billions” –Vote Leave
(4) More money in your pocket
“Wages will be higher for working people outside the EU… because pay will no longer be undercut by uncontrolled migration.” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Gisela Stuart
(5) And scrapping VAT on fuel bills and tampons
“In 1993, VAT on household energy bills was imposed… When we Vote Leave, we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax.” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Gisela Stuart
‘After we Vote Leave… We will need a carefully managed negotiation process and some major legislative changes before 2020, including taking real steps… to abolish VAT on fuel and tampons” – Chris Grayling
(6) No EU beneficiaries left worse-off
“There is more than enough money to ensure that those who now get funding from the EU – including universities, scientists, family farmers, regional funds, cultural organisations and others – will continue to do so… We will continue to fund EU programmes in the UK until 2020” – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, and Priti Patel (amongst other signatories)
(7) And no short-term economic disruption
“After we Vote Leave, there won’t be a sudden change that disrupts the economy.” – Boris Johnson, Gisela Stuart and Michael Gove
(8) We’ll get brand new trade deals all over the world
“We would immediately be able to start negotiating new trade deals… which could enter into force immediately after the UK leaves the EU” – Chris Grayling
(9) There’ll be no damage to trade with the EU
“There is a European free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border and we will be part of it… Britain will have access to the Single Market after we vote leave… The idea that our trade will suffer because we stop imposing terrible rules such as the Clinical Trial Directive is silly.” Vote Leave
(10) Or our cooperation with the EU
“We will negotiate a UK-EU Treaty that enables us 1) to continue cooperating in many areas just as now (e.g. maritime surveillance), 2) to deepen cooperation in some areas (e.g. scientific collaborations and counter-terrorism)” – Vote Leave
(11) Guaranteed in a treaty which we’ll sort out before 2020
“It will be possible to negotiate a new settlement with the EU, including a UK-EU free trade deal, by the next general election in May 2020” – Vote Leave
(12) Which won’t have any obligation to follow EU laws
“The supremacy of EU law and the jurisdiction of the European Court over the UK will come to an end” Vote Leave
(13) We’ll cut immigration
“I wouldn’t set a time limit for it
but the ambition would be to bring it down to tens of thousands.” – Michael Gove
(14) With a new system in place by 2020
“By the next general election, we will create a genuine Australian-style points based immigration system.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(15) That doesn’t favour EU citizens
“Those seeking entry for work or study should be admitted on the basis of their skills without discrimination on the ground of nationality.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
“[We will introduce a bill to] end the automatic right of all EU citizens to enter the UK by the next election” – Vote Leave
(16) But which gives Irish citizens total free access
“The right of Irish citizens to enter, reside and work in the UK is already enshrined in our law. This will be entirely unaffected by a vote to leave on 23 June.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(17) And stronger border controls
“There is one absolutely clear-cut dividend from leaving the EU. That is our ability to regain control of our borders, including far stronger powers over who we can deport, and proper preventative checks at the border.” – Dominic Raab
(18) But no controls on the Northern Irish land border with the EU
“There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.” – Michael Gove, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel and Gisela Stuart
(19) And the union with Scotland will be stronger than ever
“If we vote to leave then I think the union will be stronger… I think when we vote to leave it will be clear that having voted to leave one union the last thing people in Scotland wanted to do is to break up another.” – Michael Gove
Somewhere there I don't see "Crash out with No Deal on WTO"
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Dream of what? do you really think either of these clowns is arguably other than narcissists?
Boris will sell you Brino in other word's May's deal with candles and gift wrapping.
He doesn't want to be remembered doing anything that he can't blame someone else for.
Who will bet that Boris keeps that promise?
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he'll take credit for the deal if it's ratified by parliament.
He would certainly not have applied it to Boris!
He referred to men who are courageous and honest, not someone described in public by a critic as "You really are a nasty piece of work, aren't you?"
It'll be marketed like soap powder 'New improved Brexit!"
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