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50Hertz

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Why are all of the Wimbledon line judges very fat this year? Have they been selected to send a subliminal message to the EU that in the event of a no deal Brexit, we are so well nourished we can survive without food for at least six months?
 

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Why are all of the Wimbledon line judges very fat this year? Have they been selected to send a subliminal message to the EU that in the event of a no deal Brexit, we are so well nourished we can survive without food for at least six months?
as long as their eyes are good
 

50Hertz

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On the way back home from the petrol station, I came up behind a Ford Transit van carrying "Air Conditioned Police". I've never come across this before. I've seen "This van is air conditioned" written on the side of smaller dog carrying vans, for obvious reasons, but never a statement proclaiming to air condition the actual police officers. Why do they think that I need to know this information? Do they air condition the police in any other parts of the country? I don't understand the significance.
 

50Hertz

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I live to disappoint
British Airways once adopted the slogan "We're not happy until you're not not happy" on an automated customer service email response for about 48 hours.

I like that one and try to live up to it every day. :)
 

Danidl

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On the way back home from the petrol station, I came up behind a Ford Transit van carrying "Air Conditioned Police". I've never come across this before. I've seen "This van is air conditioned" written on the side of smaller dog carrying vans, for obvious reasons, but never a statement proclaiming to air condition the actual police officers. Why do they think that I need to know this information? Do they air condition the police in any other parts of the country? I don't understand the significance.
They are less likely to jump out ranting.. its all part of Cool Britannia
 

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spotted on twitter:

David Cameron: "Vote for me or face chaos under Labour."
(causes utter chaos)

Theresa May: "Vote for me or face chaos under Labour."
(causes utter chaos)

Boris Johnson: "Vote for me or face chaos under Labour."
(causes utter chaos even before being elected).



 
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On the way back home from the petrol station, I came up behind a Ford Transit van carrying "Air Conditioned Police". I've never come across this before. I've seen "This van is air conditioned" written on the side of smaller dog carrying vans, for obvious reasons, but never a statement proclaiming to air condition the actual police officers. Why do they think that I need to know this information? Do they air condition the police in any other parts of the country? I don't understand the significance.
Doesn't really answer your question, but...

31253

https://www.galls.com/cool-cop-body-armor-air-conditioning
 

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Does everyone think BJ has it in the bag or does JH have any chance at all? Apparently more than half the membership have yet to vote, it had been assumed that most of the votes would have been in by now. The longer the race has gone on, the more BJ is exposed as just been full of bluster and not really being capable of answering questions directly.

JH has not exactly shined and comes across as dull as dish water but he does a better job of answering questions than BJ does. Polls have been wrong in the past, I'm wondering if the Conservative membership may be having second thoughts about putting someone like BJ in charge. They just might go for the safer pair of hands and elect JH instead. I would love to see the look on BJs face if that was to happen.

I doubt if it will, but I think it may well be closer than what a lot of pundits were predicting just a few days ago.
 

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.. Ediiorial from the Irish Times today....

(Note while 55k is larger than 40k, it is three times less serious,as the RoI population is hree times bigger....)

"it is estimated 55,000 jobs will be at risk in Ireland if the UK crashes out of the EU. In Northern Ireland, the cost of no deal could be over 40,000 jobs (equivalent to more than 1 in 20). the EU. In Northern Ireland, the cost of no deal could be over 40,000 jobs (equivalent to more than 1 in 20).

Behind each of those 95,000 “units” is a person. With each person comes networks of family and friends, and with many come “dependents”. Take away one income and numerous lives are affected.

Bills unpaid; rents and mortgages in arrears; insurance policies lapsed. The transition from employee to job-seeker is rarely pain-free. Stress and ill-health increase as the means of managing them diminish.

Although some talk of the “sharp shock” of no deal, the rippling negative effects of each job lost will be wide, deep and long-lasting.

The Northern Ireland civil service has stepped up to the mark and is providing public information where there would otherwise only be radio static
Civil servants in both parts of the island renewed efforts this week to both warn about and prepare for this scenario. Their reports serve to move the prospect of no deal from the realms of fantasy machismo into stark reality. Such efforts have been infused with caution.

For the Irish civil service, this was a necessary but difficult move. The Brexit Contingency Plan Update served to nudge the “known knowns” further out beyond the shade of conspiratorial silence. To do so now is partly to assure the 26 EU member-states that the UK cannot compromise Ireland’s place in the single market. But it is also a strong message to the British government too – particularly on the subject of Northern Ireland, whose vulnerability in no-deal Brexit is laid out quite clearly.

The frankness of Irish Ministers’ comments alongside the report displays a conscious rebuttal to the blasé attitude of some British MPs to the risks of a crash-out Brexit. The two remaining candidates for British prime minister describe no-deal Brexit as if it were akin to an unsightly war wound they’d personally bear with brave nobility.
 
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Fingers

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.. Ediiorial from the Irish Times today....

(Note while 55k is larger than 40k, it is three times less serious,as the RoI population is hree times bigger....)

"it is estimated 55,000 jobs will be at risk in Ireland if the UK crashes out of the EU. In Northern Ireland, the cost of no deal could be over 40,000 jobs (equivalent to more than 1 in 20). the EU. In Northern Ireland, the cost of no deal could be over 40,000 jobs (equivalent to more than 1 in 20).

Behind each of those 95,000 “units” is a person. With each person comes networks of family and friends, and with many come “dependents”. Take away one income and numerous lives are affected.

Bills unpaid; rents and mortgages in arrears; insurance policies lapsed. The transition from employee to job-seeker is rarely pain-free. Stress and ill-health increase as the means of managing them diminish.

Although some talk of the “sharp shock” of no deal, the rippling negative effects of each job lost will be wide, deep and long-lasting.

The Northern Ireland civil service has stepped up to the mark and is providing public information where there would otherwise only be radio static
Civil servants in both parts of the island renewed efforts this week to both warn about and prepare for this scenario. Their reports serve to move the prospect of no deal from the realms of fantasy machismo into stark reality. Such efforts have been infused with caution.

For the Irish civil service, this was a necessary but difficult move. The Brexit Contingency Plan Update served to nudge the “known knowns” further out beyond the shade of conspiratorial silence. To do so now is partly to assure the 26 EU member-states that the UK cannot compromise Ireland’s place in the single market. But it is also a strong message to the British government too – particularly on the subject of Northern Ireland, whose vulnerability in no-deal Brexit is laid out quite clearly.

The frankness of Irish Ministers’ comments alongside the report displays a conscious rebuttal to the blasé attitude of some British MPs to the risks of a crash-out Brexit. The two remaining candidates for British prime minister describe no-deal Brexit as if it were akin to an unsightly war wound they’d personally bear with brave nobility.

I think the penny is finally dropping.

We can take the hit. Ireland can’t. And the EU do not really care. Little Leo’s bluster May sound good but it doesn’t help people in the real world.

Time to come to the table me thinks.
 
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Does everyone think BJ has it in the bag or does JH have any chance at all? Apparently more than half the membership have yet to vote, it had been assumed that most of the votes would have been in by now. The longer the race has gone on, the more BJ is exposed as just been full of bluster and not really being capable of answering questions directly.

JH has not exactly shined and comes across as dull as dish water but he does a better job of answering questions than BJ does. Polls have been wrong in the past, I'm wondering if the Conservative membership may be having second thoughts about putting someone like BJ in charge. They just might go for the safer pair of hands and elect JH instead. I would love to see the look on BJs face if that was to happen.

I doubt if it will, but I think it may well be closer than what a lot of pundits were predicting just a few days ago.
JH has a coherent strategy, I reckon he can just about getting brexit through parliament, that means no fresh GE, MPs get to keep their job until 2022.
JH's strategy is to try to get the EU to make some minor changes before end of September to avoid immediate no deal preparation. He will then cajole MPs to pass it in October. A50 will then be extended as long as it takes to to go through brexit legislation.

BJ has no strategy as such, just a wing and a prayer. I can't see the EU give him any substantial concession nor MPs pass the WA like it is. His only course of action is to go no deal brexit, toss all the cards into the air and see how they land.
That means he may lose a confidence vote in October and we'd get a new GE.
JH may become interim PM.
 
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Danidl

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I think the penny is finally dropping.

We can take the hit. Ireland can’t. And the EU do not really care. Little Leo’s bluster May sound good but it doesn’t help people in the real world.

Time to come to the table me thinks.
Boy ..do you actually read anything through?. Ireland can take the hit, NI cannot..and who do they belong to?.
The civil servents in NI who are doing their job,without oversight or control from either their own parliament or the bigger one in Westminster,have produced these statistics.. bluntly that they will be hit 3 times harder than RoI. Do you have any equivalent statistics for mainland UK?
As a person self charged with the duty of changing opinions, perhaps getting the UK civil service to release or commission such reports might be a public service.
 
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Boy ..do you actually read anything through?. Ireland can take the hit, NI cannot..and who do they belong to?.
The civil servents in NI who are doing their job,without oversight or control from either their own parliament or the bigger one in Westminster,have produced these statistics.. bluntly that they will be hit 3 times harder than RoI. Do you have any equivalent statistics for mainland UK?
As a person self charged with the duty of changing opinions, perhaps getting the UK civil service to release or commission such reports might be a public service.

I read between the lines Danny boy.

This is a cry for help. Pure and simple.
 
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