Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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socialism /communism doesn't work.Russia for example still has mass poverty, still has people in positions of privilege in control of the purse strings and very few rights for the ordinary people. Why on earth anyone would think that we would be better off under that is not facing the truth. Don't know how much of the recent drama about Chernobyl was based on fact, but if it was accurate, we should not want to go anywhere near it with it's casual disregard for the citizens and danger it was putting the world in
You are forgetting the Windscale nuclear bonfire aren't you? were the communists responsible for that too?, and don't get too enthusiastic about poverty either, our record is pretty poor there as well.
It only needs alteration of a single word to make this comment in your post apply equally here

"The UK for example still has mass poverty, still has people in positions of privilege in control of the purse strings"
 

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Now you are sinking really low, not only repeating a post you've already made, but deliberately enlarging the text and editing out part of what I posted to make it mean different.

And you call me nasty.
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I, ve neither enlarged it or altered a thing. I screen saved the post because of your "agree". (later removed by you)
And, yes calling all leavers liars is nasty, you agreed yourself to start with.
And, you are adding lying to your nastiness, I edited nothing of yours.
 
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50Hertz

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I’m just watching the leadership debate on C4. It’s like watching an episode of The Apprentice.

I think Stewart is doing well. Javid is doing a great impression of the Sun Character off the Tellytubbies.
 
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flecc

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You are trying to defend communism
There you go again with your assumptions, I'm not in any way defending communism on this issue. Rather than rely on the makers of drama, I'm just posting from the knowledge of those Westerners who were there coping with the situation and Western subsequent information from documentary and written sources. All of that is at odds with much in that Chernobyl drama.
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I’m just watching the leadership debate on C4. It’s like watching an episode of The Apprentice.

I think Stewart is doing well. Javid is doing a great impression of the Sun Character off the Tellytubbies.

Stewart is Willem Defoe after 2 years on crystal meth
 
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flecc

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And, you are adding lying to your nastiness, I edited nothing of yours.
Yes you did, you cut out the first line of my post that you were commenting on, here's what I posted:

"Fingers told me he was a liar, he's posted this:

"I am the media"

Lying is part of the modus operandi of the media."

Here's the link to your response with that first line missing, making it seem I was saying "I am the media".
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flecc

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You are forgetting the Windscale nuclear bonfire aren't you? were the communists responsible for that too?
Not to mention the Three Mile Island disaster in the USA. Scott Heaberlin, the scientist who led that cleanup and was therefore the world's leading expert on the subject, was the lead on the US help in Chernobyl.

But Fingers it seems prefers to rely on a very belated drama than the on-the-spot evidence from such a distinguished and well sourced person.

That's the media for you.
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Yes you did liar, you cut out the first line of my post that you were commenting on, here's what I posted:

"Fingers told me he was a liar, he's posted this:

"I am the media"

Lying is part of the modus operandi of the media."

Here's the link to your response with that first line missing, making it seem I was saying "I am the media".
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Pathetic.

What difference does it make?

You said all leavers were liars. That is what you said.

You also say Chernobyl the tv series is wrong because of a book you read. Yet you haven’t even seen the tv series. You also claim because of a tv series that you haven’t seen that communism is not a bad thing.

You are losing your marbles.
 

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Not to mention the Three Mile Island disaster in the USA. Scott Heaberlin, the scientist who led that cleanup and was therefore the world's leading expert on the subject, was the lead on the US help in Chernobyl.

But Fingers it seems prefers to rely on a very belated drama than the evidence from such a distinguished and well sourced person.

That's the media for you.
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You are talking nonsense.

You are embarrassing yourself.

What timescale is Chernobyl based on? Whose evidence is it based on?

You are not being stubborn. You are being a fool. You are arguing over something you know nothing about. Only a fool would do this. And there’s nothing worse or embarrassing as an old fool.

Put that cap on as it a perfect fit.
 

oldgroaner

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The weasel debate is on ch 4 now
Good post, except for one thing, these weasels are supposed to be on your side.
Now that is strange, don't you think?

You voted for Brexit and got Weasels?

Bit of a disappointment when you were promised Unicorns at the very least ;)
And the rainbows are looking dodgy too.
 
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Good post, except for one thing, these weasels are supposed to be on your side.
Now that is strange, don't you think?

You voted for Brexit and got Weasels?

Bit of a disappointment when you were promised Unicorns at the very least ;)
And the rainbows are looking dodgy too.

The conservatives campaigned for remain.

Is your memory that bad? It was literally 3 years ago.

We had a vote on it and everything. There was a bus too. You must remember the bus?

The Conservatives were against the bus. They even posted a leaflet through every door in the country to say that you should vote remain.

Am I ringing a bell or is that just tinnitus?
 

flecc

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You are arguing over something you know nothing about.
I know far more about the Chernobyl accident than you ever will, including decades before in precise detail what the cause was. That the drama did get right, but that wasn't true of much else,

Even in the first episode they filmed a helicopter crash in the emission cloud over the reactor, saying it was at the time. In fact that crash happened several weeks later when the helicopter's rotor touched a crane jib.
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flecc

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Fair enough. I withdraw that.

Here’s a question for you.

What did Gorbachev say was the main reason for the fall of communism?
He said a lot, but the impression I got was that he mainly blamed perestroika. He later regretted that he didn't introduce reforms earlier.
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Fingers

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I know far more about the Chernobyl accident than you ever will, including decades before in precise detail what the cause was. That the drama did get right, but that wasn't true of much else,

Even in the first episode they filmed a helicopter crash in the emission cloud over the reactor, saying it was at the time. In fact that crash happened several weeks later when the helicopter's rotor touched a crane jib.
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Incorrect.

It wasn’t the first episode.

It wasn’t even the second episode.

Keep digging fool.
 
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Gove in the debate is hyper optimistic over everything (mainly himself) even for no deal brexit which he's keen for while admitting it'd be a disaster probably as high as a kite and thinks he could fly if he jumped off a roof. (more likely pushed off by BJ)..

Chunt - thinks that EU will tremble and fall to his feet upon hearing his name.

Raab - channelling his inner Alan B'stard

Stewart - very Vulcan Spock like exposition of the illogic of the others but then cheefully admits he'd be happily prepared to team up with Farage to hasten us over the cliff

Javid - Hoping no one in the Tory party and US esp Trump mistakes him Sadiq Khan and deports him accidently on purpose...

BJ - Overslept and missed the show whilst dreaming he was James Bond ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3467478/Boris-claims-like-James-Bond-fighting-EU-baddies-Osborne-slaps-saying-Brexit-isn-t-amusing-adventure.html


 
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