try talking consumer protections to all the young people in southern europe who are out of work
Brexit, for once some facts.
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There's no relevance. Getting rid of consumer protection wouldn't help them in any way whatsoever.
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I fully agree, but don't understand why Leavers expected anything different. Actually I do understand in one way, it's the refusal by so many Leavers to face reality.
That reality is that the politicians are overwhelmingly Remainers and always have been. As Joiners they took us into Europe. As Remainers they fought for the 1975 win. As Remainers they fought for a 2016 win. And as Remainers they are totally opposed to No Deal now and promote such as Norway + which is 90% in the EU.
The great majority of them will do anything to ensure we remain close to the EU. Add the confidence they have that the will of at least half of the people is with them and the odds are heavily stacked against truly leaving.
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from unscrupulous businesses (eg roaming charges), unfair competition, dangerous and sub standard goods, tax dodgers, distortion of the market place, protection of the environment, air and water pollution, unsociable working condition etc.
Find me one EU directive that you want to repeal.
Andrea Leadsom accepts that brexit my be delayed.
Apparently she thinks it's only for a few weeks.
Apparently she thinks it's only for a few weeks.
It’s never going to be trivial money unfortunately.
That’s why if we do it then we really do it. A bit like a rugby tackle. You will get hurt if you don’t commit 100%.
Conversely if the remain camp wins the day then we should adopt the Euro and commit to the project fully.
That’s why my referendum question would be do you want to join the Euro.
Yes or No.
Straight bananas and the fact that MEPs don’t have to show their expenses. Transparency of voting systems.
One of these is a joke.
Were that hypothesis to be true,then yes the mess would be as bad as present. Worse?. Not sure. The realisation is dawning that it is a shambles,. Would things have been better had the UK been resolute for a crash out two years ago?. Maybe,at least there would have been realistic longer term planning, and some thoughts on future relationships.
Agreed, fully commit and Yes. This has always been my position.
If we'd joined it in the first instance it would have been an even more powerful currency than it already is. And Remaining and joining it now would be good all round.
Somehow I think you may disagree.
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I am against further EU integration, the EU army and political union so I think we should leave at some stage but not the way we are heading at the moment. Therefore, I don't see UK joining the Eurozone.
If however, parliament decides to join, I don't have problem with that either. I have a house in France. My choice would depend on the rate at which we would join and our share of the ECB.
to me it's irrelevant that they are remainers. They gave us a vote expecting to get a different result and should honour the result. It is disgraceful the way they have behaved and then they have the cheek to lecture us on responsibility. Bunch of wasters
Where are you getting these mad ideas from?
Just why would reducing standards be a good way to do business? selling cheap, unsafe, unreliable and polluting trash won't save this country or make it a major exporter will it?
Typical Tory idea, rip off the customer and to hell with the consequences to safety, reliability the environment and even the future of the country.
And this endless supply of cheap labour you refer to will be guaranteed as the government's policy has never been to apply the controls on numbers it has always had, even to people from outside the EU.
They have never employed the powers they actually have to control immigration from anywhere, as they are not organised well enough to keep track of the numbers, or where the people go, and it is far too profitable to imagine they will do so now
And of course, despite the lies about controlling numbers they have publicly stated they will adjust the numbers to suit their policies.
EU-born people made up 7.6% of working-age employment in 2017 and the non-EU born made up 10.3%
So after Brexit the government will simply make a couple of trade deals that include free movement of the citizens of that country to the UK
Exactly what India required in return for an FTA
They will in fact import labour in large numbers from even more countries and carry on with the present policy of conveniently "losing" them.
Which has the dual advantage that these unfortunates can be paid even less than the living wage and aren't able to complain.
The end result after Brexit will be an increase in immigrants from outside the EU t offset the numbers coming from inside it, and in order to strike FTA's either free movement from the particular country involved, or either an agreed increase of immigrant numbers or simpy turning a blind eye to them as they do now.
Just another attempt to start a disruptive argument again , won't you ever stop?
Claim: The European Union is so corrupt that the European Court of Auditors has not signed off its accounts for 20 years.
Reality Check verdict: The Court of Auditors has signed the EU accounts every year since 2007, while pointing out that EU countries, once they receive the EU funds, misuse about 4.4% of the total budget.
Next Question? any other Urban Myths you'd like to trot out?
Of course, it is all being invented by remainers - everything will be fine...
Cabinet Office compares no-deal Brexit to Iceland ash cloud chaos
Eyjafjallajökull seen as nearest recent example of what civil service could have to cope with
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/25/cabinet-office-compares-no-deal-brexit-to-iceland-ash-cloud-chaos
Cabinet Office compares no-deal Brexit to Iceland ash cloud chaos
Eyjafjallajökull seen as nearest recent example of what civil service could have to cope with
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/25/cabinet-office-compares-no-deal-brexit-to-iceland-ash-cloud-chaos
That's already happened and still happening. To offset the sharp drop in nursing recruits from the EU since the referendum and those who have left, we've brought in large numbers from India and are still recruiting there.
So much for Brexit controlling free movement. A s you've often posted, we've never tried to control immigration, even though we've always had sufficient powers to do so.
The EU's part in this is only to be wrongly blamed.
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It doesnt seem to have occurred to you that the reason we didn't leave the EU the following Monday after the referendum was for good reasons
Firstly it isn't possible to just do that without taking a level of risk verging on financial suicide, and secondly that it is a far more complex process than that, as has been revealed since.
That promise should never have been made.
So why should there be another referendum now due process and planning has take place
Two reasons
- The agreement that can be reached is crap
- Brexit is obviously and provably a damaging and expensive path to take and worthy of a Public Mandate to continue.
Nobody in their right mind enters into a contract where there is no clause that permits a change of mind, you wouldn't buy even a small consumer product if you couldn't change your mind after deciding it doesn't suit you and isn't fit for purpose.
The levels are in fact the same as those here , but of course if you work for an hour here you are classed as employed.
Here is a snippet on the subject
LONDON — Unemployment in Britain is now just 4.5%. There are only 1.49 million unemployed people in the UK, versus 32 million people with jobs.
The problem with this record is that the statistical definition of "unemployment" relies on a fiction that economists tell themselves about the nature of work. As the rate gets lower and lower, it tests that lie. Because — as anyone who has studied basic economics knows — the official definition of unemployment disguises the true rate. In reality, about 21.5% of all working-age people (defined as ages 16 to 64) are without jobs, or 8.83 million people, according to the Office for National Statistics.
Next Myth please