Brexit, for once some facts.

[tommie]

The Queen can break the impasse.

She can summon TheresaMay to the palace and remind her that she granted her the right to form a government on the basis that she had a majority with DUP support, and now that support has been removed and majority lost.
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Eh? Since when?

 

[flecc]

Eh? Since when?

Since not supporting the government's deal.

It's not important though in respect of the Queen acting. She can do so anyway in a major issue such as this where the country's future is in jeopardy and parliament is locked into an impasse.

Link back to post
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[Fingers]

Since not supporting the government's deal.

It's not important though in respect of the Queen acting. She can do so anyway in a major issue such as this where the country's future is in jeopardy and parliament is locked into an impasse.

Link back to post
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Except she can't and won't

 

[flecc]

Except she can't

Wrong as usual, she can. She has the sovereign right to prorogue parliament.
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[Deleted member 128]

You lot got smashed.

70% of Conservative constituencies and 60% of Labour constituencies voted to Leave in the EU referendum.

These estimates show that while the national result of the referendum was relatively close, with 52% voting Leave and 48% voting Remain, a much larger majority of parliamentary seats voted to Leave – with 64% of seats in Great Britain voting Leave.

utterly smashed. Accept it.

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-majority-conservative-and-labour-constituencies-vote-leave-eu-referendum/

Apparently 78% of Labour voters voted to remain but because of peculiarities with the way electoral constituencies are distributed the majority of Labour constituencies voted to leave.
A large majority of Labour voters want to remain in the EU.

 

[Fingers]

Apparently 78% of Labour voters voted to remain but because of peculiarities with the way electoral constituencies are distributed the majority of Labour constituencies voted to leave.
A large majority of Labour voters want to remain in the EU.

Did you click on the link?

It says different.

 

[oldgroaner]

I agree.

I saw that the bird who had brief fame in the Harry Pothead films has had a tattoo saying “ #times up” stencilled onto her carcass. FFS. Emma something or other I think her name is. Remain gob-piece.

Oxygen James is starting to think is he?
Remarkable achivement on an empty head, and using terms as you did "Remain gob-piece" is sticking the same label on yourself, so don't do it, we already have enough no brain trolls hanging around here with no useul thoughts to offer.

 

[50Hertz]

Some would snipe but I think enough would accept a further Leave vote, I would.

Away from those active on the fringe as here, the bulk of the public are rather fed up with the whole issue and interviews show how ambivalent most of them are now. They just want an end to it, whatever that might be.
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I’ve noticed the public’s ambivalence and I think that is a sad and dangerous position. People need to make their views known and ask for the outcome they desire, but if we have a second referendum, accept and support the majority position.

 

[Danidl]

"Except she can't and won't."
Probably the latter. There is usually a provision that a consitutional head of state can require the Ministers of State to return their seals of office,when the Government can no longer govern. In Totalitarian states, the Head of State ,just sends the Army to collect them.

 

[Danidl]

I’ve noticed the public’s ambivalence and I think that is a sad and dangerous position. People need to make their views known and ask for the outcome they desire, but if we have a second referendum, accept and support the majority position.

I do agree with that stance. There is democratic protest and mob rule.

 

[tommie]

Since not supporting the government's deal.

It's not important though in respect of the Queen acting. She can do so anyway in a major issue such as this where the country's future is in jeopardy and parliament is locked into an impasse.

Link back to post
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Nonsense!

Not supporting one particular deal is not indicative of withdrawing total and lasting support for the gov.
They will be voting along with the Gov later as usual.

 

[oldgroaner]

What a situation! on the basis of a marginal vote by the clueless, the Government of incompetents is falling all over itself, they are every bit as useless as the Trolls we get on here.

Brexit: gained by deceit ruined by conceit.
The only one who stands to gain is Vladimir Putin.

 

[Deleted member 128]

Did you click on the link?

It says different.

No, the link talks about numbers of constituencies, I was talking about numbers of voters. I suggest you read your link.

 

[tommie]

I do agree with that stance. There is democratic protest and mob rule.

so Dan whats going to happen with this truck coming from Scotland to Northern Ireland and then on to the Republic as Mr. Ross has asked?

 

[Fingers]

You didn't post a link. This is the position now in the Fixed Term Parliament Act:

"The royal prerogative to dissolve Parliament was abrogated by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. Section 6(1) of the Act however specifically states that the monarch's power to prorogue Parliament is not affected by the Act."
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That was for a different reply.

Someone was was saying 78% of labour voters voted remain which is utter nonsense.

The Queen has no power in a formal sense to do anything with Parliament. It's pure pomp and ceremony.

 

[flecc]

Nonsense!

Not supporting one particular deal is not indicative of withdrawing total and lasting support for the gov.
They will be voting along with the Gov later as usual.

No, that's nonsense. Blocking such an important measure is not "total and lasting support" as you put it.

But as said, the DUP position is not important in respect of the Queens power to act in the current circumstances.
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[Fingers]

No, the link talks about numbers of constituencies, I was talking about numbers of voters. I suggest you read your link.

That was my original point.

 

[Deleted member 128]

That was my original point.

That's right, the vast majority of Labour voters, 78% of them, want to remain in the EU. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to restate that.

 

[Fingers]

That's right, the vast majority of Labour voters, 78% of them, want to remain in the EU. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to restate that.

I cannot see how that is remotely possible or provable.

But I look forward to seeing your workings.

 

[tommie]

No, that's nonsense. Blocking such an important measure is not "total and lasting support" as you put it.

But as said, the DUP position is not important in respect of the Queens power to act in the current circumstances.
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No your notion that the Queen could intervene at present is waffle - you have to wait until the Gov has no clear majority in the House.

The DUP will decide that.

so for now sit back and be thankful you have the DUP to look after your interests.