Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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At least one newspaper is firmly behind a second referendum of some sort:

The Observer view on Brexit – the people must have a chance to give their verdict
Observer editorial
The deal unveiled by Theresa May reveals how dire our options are. We need to have a say


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/17/observer-view-on-brexit-the-people-must-have-a-say

And to add to the joys of the season:

Brussels tells Theresa May - delaying Brexit will cost UK £10bn

EU says longer transition would lead to a bigger bill as PM prepares for critical week
 
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seemingly a handful of anarchist, trotskyist type scum to which our resident extremist endears himself

Poor old boy. He’s probably sitting in his own **** as well.

Nurse! Nurse!
 
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Coventry Street, its a short street connecting Piccadilly Circus to Leicester Square

seemingly a handful of anarchist, trotskyist type scum to which our resident extremist endears himself
Tommie....I assume you are of the ‘GET ON WITH IT’ Leavers.
There are similar people on Question Time,who say they did their homework and JRM is their champion. I suggest that you do some more homework JRM wants the Singapore model,that involves 55% of your salary going to the CPF (Central Provident Fund),this fund started at 5% very much like our Workplace Pension.!!!
KudosDave
 

oyster

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Yet more confirmation that the Augean stables are full of...

Emails reveal Arron Banks’ links to Steve Bannon in quest for campaign cash

Businessman sought Trump strategist’s help to raise funds for Leave.EU in the US


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/17/arron-banks-emails-steve-bannon-brexit-campaign-funds

The article ends with:

Briant told the Observer: “This chain of emails brings all these different threads and people together … here it is revealed starkly in hard documentary evidence that foreign funders and transatlantic interests and Ukip and Bannon and data and money are all being discussed. And it’s really striking how their desire to influence politics and simultaneously make money completely overlap.”

Bannon, Banks and Wigmore did not respond to requests for comment.
 

Fingers

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Yet more confirmation that the Augean stables are full of...

Emails reveal Arron Banks’ links to Steve Bannon in quest for campaign cash

Businessman sought Trump strategist’s help to raise funds for Leave.EU in the US


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/17/arron-banks-emails-steve-bannon-brexit-campaign-funds

The article ends with:

Briant told the Observer: “This chain of emails brings all these different threads and people together … here it is revealed starkly in hard documentary evidence that foreign funders and transatlantic interests and Ukip and Bannon and data and money are all being discussed. And it’s really striking how their desire to influence politics and simultaneously make money completely overlap.”

Bannon, Banks and Wigmore did not respond to requests for comment.

If he’s committed a crime I do hope he’s locked up for the maximum time possible.

I do think his influence on getting people to vote leave may be slightly overinflated though.
 
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oldgroaner

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If he’s committed a crime I do hope he’s locked up for the maximum time possible.

I do think his influence on getting people to vote leave may be slightly overinflated though.
Do you indeed? he was involved in the leave campaign with the likes of Farage among others...are you aware of the Video where Farage lifts a pint and says "Well done Bannon, well done Breitbart, you helped with it hugely."

You can watch it here by scrolling down the page
https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1063764136058896384

What is interesting it was originally on You Tube and deleted.
The New European tried to post it in an article, then had to add a rider
"The video has been removed following a copyright claim from Breitbart"

Doesn't any of that strike you as odd?
Why did Farage say what he did ? was he lying??

The great thing about the Internet that attempts at lying can always be traced and unearthed

If Breitbart were really as smart as they think they are, they would have been better off claiming the video was a fake, but to delete if from Facebook, then prevent publication with a copyright clause actually confims it's authenticity.
That's pretty dumb, isn't it?
 
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Ironically, one thing we can never be in control of is our currency. Its value is predicated on the views of everyone else.
You are responsible for those views. The more solid the UK appears to be the higher the value of it's currency. So you are in control of the currency.
 
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‘It doesn’t make sense’
it does if you want to make a political choice instead of a practical one.
Scots are practical people, Englishmen are proud people.
If you ask a leaver in England if he/she is worried about Scotland or NI leaving the UK because of brexit, I think we can guess their reply.
 
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anotherkiwi

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From the other side:

‘It doesn’t make sense’: Europe puzzled by UK Brexit meltdown

Some commentators heaped praise on the PM but in the bars and cafes, ordinary citizens were just bewildered


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/17/brexit-european-press-praises-heroine-may
I might add that brexit is seen as a very English thing, not a a UK thing. The Scots and the Irish voted against. (The DUP is seen as an extreme right lunatic fringe more English than Irish).
 

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