Brexit, for once some facts.
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I’m not sure that she can survive much longer. The present situation isn’t good for the U.K. I still think cancelling Brexit, followed by a new Tory leader, followed by a GE is the best way forwards from this point.
I wouldn't write off TM as yet.
The parliamentary arithmetic is such that there is no real support for hard brexit, only a soft brexit or no brexit are in the running with no brexit well behind because of its democracy deficit.
TM has to empty the room of unicornists. Two of them are gone, the government can now tilt towards a soft brexit without so much extra noises.
Boris Johnson is banking on this not happening, stressing that his resignation is not a leadership challenge. He knows that the party wouldn't choose him to lead at present and he's also lost a lot of national support. It's too soon after the fiasco of his foreign secretaryship, and the public's realisation that his £350 millions a week for the NHS was a deliberate lie for his Brexit campaign purposes.
He wants her to lead through to the next general election, knowing she'll be out then. That will give him time to repair his image with party and country.
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Here's a thought from Donald Tusk
Let it be.......
Let it be.......
One version of the end of Boris had it that his ministerial detail simply did not turn up for him.He wanted a last ride in a Ministerial Car.
Mr TM: Theresa, you have just mis-spelled his name, it's not Bofris. There's no f in Boris.
TM: I know! Great isn't it.
Brexit voters is this the sort of thing you voted for?
From the Independent
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News › UK › UK Politics
New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to scrap workers' rights
Exclusive: Labour says David Davis's replacement 'has long harboured ambitions to slash vital workplace protections' after revelation he called for abolition of laws that limit how long employees can be forced to work for
Dominic Raab, who was appointed to lead the UK’s negotiations to leave the bloc after David Davis dramatically quit on Sunday, authored a paper calling for opt-outs from EU employment regulations, including those that guarantee employees time off and limit the number of hours staff can be made to work.
He also opposed rules that give long-term agency workers the same rights as full-time staff, and those that stop people being sacked if their company changes owner.
In the same report, Mr Raab called for the minimum wage to be abolished for some workers under the age of 21, and said it should be made easier for companies to sack “underperforming” employees.
Just another rabid Tory
From the Independent
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News › UK › UK Politics
New Brexit secretary Dominic Raab wanted UK to negotiate with EU to scrap workers' rights
Exclusive: Labour says David Davis's replacement 'has long harboured ambitions to slash vital workplace protections' after revelation he called for abolition of laws that limit how long employees can be forced to work for
Dominic Raab, who was appointed to lead the UK’s negotiations to leave the bloc after David Davis dramatically quit on Sunday, authored a paper calling for opt-outs from EU employment regulations, including those that guarantee employees time off and limit the number of hours staff can be made to work.
He also opposed rules that give long-term agency workers the same rights as full-time staff, and those that stop people being sacked if their company changes owner.
In the same report, Mr Raab called for the minimum wage to be abolished for some workers under the age of 21, and said it should be made easier for companies to sack “underperforming” employees.
Just another rabid Tory
Disagree.....TM has to ,at this time,go forward with her current form of Brexit,even if the detail is not workable.
TM’s plan to have different tariffs if the goods are to stay in the U.K. or going to the EU is not workable....my business brings lots of product from Asia,some gets sold in the U.K.,some gets sold onto the EU,some gets incorporated into kits....how do I know what the product destination is when it gets imported? That won’t work,the EU knows that.
There is an amendment vote next week on the single market and/or the customs union....if she removes the whip those votes could go through.
She could then proceed with her current plan knowing that it will evolve into full blown single market and customs union,the EU won’t offer anything else and hard Brexit is finished.
I don’t think she will go anywhere near a GE,she has been burnt once all ready. The public are sick of Brexit most will accept Brexit by any form just to finish it and Parliament is full of Remainers who will be happy to accept super soft Brexit,BRINO ,but it won’t be named that.
KudosDave
All the more reason to get the GE wheels turning now and close Johnson out.
Mixing things up a bit, in 1966 we also saw a change of foreign secretary, with George Brown succeeding Michael Stewart.
Also, a football team did quite well.
Also, a football team did quite well.
Twitter actually and the image is working on Windows 10 and my android phone, sorry but I don't know how to correct the fault!
Sent from my Moto G (5) using TapatalkAfraid all I see is
Heigh-ho - it wasn't meant to complain, just to understand. Thank you.
The famous George Brown Private Eye cover, well the one I remember, didn't appear until 1970.
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-232
Seems somewhat more erudite (albeit it words put into his mouth) than BJ's unpleasant analogies - despite the crudeness implicit.
From the Telegraph
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If the resignations of Boris and David Davis lead to Tory civil war, we may not leave the EU at all
William Hague"
Let it be indeed.
Don't be vague, listen to Hague!
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If the resignations of Boris and David Davis lead to Tory civil war, we may not leave the EU at all
William Hague"
Let it be indeed.
Don't be vague, listen to Hague!