Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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I liked that Matchless engine better, had one in a Brough Superior motorbike when I was in my teens, long before laws stopped teenagers riding such beasts, and even before there were consumer m/c helmets!
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I rode a Vincent Comet as an L driver, and very nice it was too, except for three things
  1. It was too tall for my short legs
  2. If I put it on the back stand facing uphill, it was a struggle to lift it off again!
  3. When I first got it it hadn't been set up right and was a real handful, but a mechanic pal fixed that
It would reach 90 (ish) in a long straight with a tail wind, and the brakes were good.

I wore an ex forces flying helmet from Army Surplus stores and of course the split view goggles fashionable back then.
And of course a smelly Barbour suit....
 
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I rode a Vincent Comet as an L driver, and very nice it was too, except for three things
  1. It was too tall for my short legs
  2. If I put it on the back stand facing uphill, it was a struggle to lift it off again!
Same for me with Vincents, had a customer with a Rapide which was too high for me so I was never comfortable on it. Here's a photo of a Rapide for nostalgia's sake:

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Same for me with Vincents, had a customer with a Rapide which was too high for me so I was never comfortable on it. Here's a photo of a Rapide for nostalgia's sake:

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Magnificent"

I'm tempted to repeat the words of Frank Sinatra when he first clapped eyes on a brand new "E" type Jag

"I wan't one of those and I want it right now!"

(And a pair of Elton John walk tall shoes to go with it!) :cool:
 

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My dad had one of these
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It's a Grey Flash but he brought it up to Black Flash spec engine wise. (It's the single 500cc,half a Vincent 1000)
Wish it was still in family.
The noise that bike made was unbelievable. He, d start it in back yard and ride through passageway, a sort of tunnel between terraced houses. The house used to shake...neighbours complain and all dogs on our block bark..
Vincent's were best looking bikes ever built. Fact.
Been trying to work year out he had it. I, d guess around 1958...He used to race a mk8 ktt Velocette (owned by Neepsend, steel company, they sponsored him)
 
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In the independent, a great headline and article designed to spread panic
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/novichok-inventor-amesbury-poisoning-salisbury-russia-vladimir-uglev-a8432876.html
"Vladimir Uglev, who worked on the substances for 15 years, said the nerve agent would likely stick around in Salisbury for many years to come. It was “near impossible” to detect, he added; it would be hard to know where it may be lurking.
It is known to be a particularly resilient compound, but its precise stability depends on climatic factors.

In direct sunshine on an even metallic surface, the substance evaporates quickly, says Mr Uglev. In colder, drier conditions, absorbed onto uneven, softer surfaces, it can stick around for a long time. When stored in ampules – sealed glass capsules – its shelf life stretches to decades.
“I have never tested this exactly – whether it is 10 or 100 years that it remains lethal,” he said. “But it is a long, long time.”

The scientist also raised the possibility that the second confirmed novichok contamination came about from an unused batch of poison that had been prepared for the assassin.


“It may be secondary contamination from the first batch, or the assassin had several syringes prepared for him, left buried somewhere in the area,” he said. “Perhaps he only used one or two of those batches.”
 
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My dad had one of these
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It's a Grey Flash but he brought it up to Black Flash spec engine wise. (It's the single 500cc,half a Vincent 1000)
The Grey Flash was the machine the late John Surtees started his racing career with, the only man ever become both Motorcycle World Champion and F1 world Champion.

He was actually going round the circuits even before that as the passenger to his Dad, sidecar racer Jack Surtees. Here's Jack and young John below, dad with a Vincent too of course:

 

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The Grey Flash was the machine the late John Surtees started his racing career with, the only man ever become both Motorcycle World Champion and F1 world Champion.

He was actually going round the circuits even before that as the passenger to his Dad, sidecar racer Jack Surtees. Here's Jack and young John below, dad with a Vincent too of course:


I think that's why dad got one. He raced Surtees at Brands but always said he was just on track at same time... He didn't claim to have actually raced against him... If you see what he meant. Still have his pudding basin helmet and goggles on display in house..

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So appreciate his speculation. I really couldn't have thought of any of those possibilities. As for his inexactness, did that test a more approximate range than 10 to 100 years?
This character has said some contradictory things

"I have never tested this exactly – whether it is 10 or 100 years that it remains lethal,”

Really? Putin said if the had been exposed to Novichok they would have been killed instantly,
And thus far no one has died, let us hope no one will, but that fact discredits this (Expert's)claim
And he further claims they survived because the Novichoc was degraded or dluted, yet now claims the following
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Unlike some of my colleagues, I’ve always said that it is very stable,” he said. “It can persist for years, with nothing much happening to it. There is a very, very, slow process of evaporation.”
There appears to be a difference of opinion there!
According to the now-retired scientist, “Novichok” can bury itself in paint, trees, and, perhaps, in wooden benches: “It can get in and remain there for a very long time. If it is on a neutral surface, it will only degrade on account of evaporation. And that would be a long process.”

So it won't wash off, so why are people being given advice to wash things?

Frankly this man's speculation seems far from convincing

Why haven't Porton Down issued a proper report on the risk level to the Public instead of relying on this Russian, who frankly sounds like a Publicity seeker?
 
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white smoke at Chequers.
TM's softer version of brexit as been agreed.
This means UK will adopt EU's rule book on goods forever by law.
 
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white smoke at Chequers.
TM's softer version of brexit as been agreed.
This means UK will adopt EU's rule book on goods forever by law.
And will the EU agree?
The brexit voter's reaction should be interesting [emoji41]

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And will the EU agree?
The brexit voter's reaction should be interesting [emoji41]

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Barnier likes the new plan, it solves several problems for both sides. NI border, future cooperation etc.
Guess who are unhappy?
 
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For so many years, everything has been blamed on the EU. Straightness of bananas, and cucumbers. Flavouring of prawn cocktail crisps. Custard creams being messed with.

Yet this somewhat bizarre common rule book surely must mean we follow EU rules on all foods - without a satisfactory input on them? If prawn cocktail flavouring were to be missed from the list by accident (by the UK government), how would we be able to get it added in future? A future when the EU can plough its own furrow without our being able to do more than ask politely if they might consider making a change.
 
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Surprisingly muted headline in the Express this morning
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Chequers plan will be ‘in TROUBLE by Monday’ Brexiteers send stark WARNING to Theresa May
 
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Her'e the link to the released chequers statement
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/723460/CHEQUERS_STATEMENT_-_FINAL.PDF

As far as I can see it means

We are staying in the EU
With our mouths Duct taped shut.

The Brexit Natives will be upset! as this agreement cancel Brexit
The Remainers will be upset because we are worse off than we are now.

Farce! (even if the EU accept this tempting offer!)

Corbyn wont like this bit either!
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The UK would commit to apply a common rulebook on state aid, and establish
cooperative arrangements between regulators on competition.
(But Conservatives will)
 
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For so many years, everything has been blamed on the EU. Straightness of bananas, and cucumbers. Flavouring of prawn cocktail crisps. Custard creams being messed with.

Yet this somewhat bizarre common rule book surely must mean we follow EU rules on all foods - without a satisfactory input on them? If prawn cocktail flavouring were to be missed from the list by accident (by the UK government), how would we be able to get it added in future? A future when the EU can plough its own furrow without our being able to do more than ask politely if they might consider making a change.
the hard brexiters will come out with plenty of reasons why we shouldn't be order takers, a vassal state etc, and I predict they will do the work for remainers better than they ever could.
The hard brexiters will demonstrate that there will be a high cost to brexit, a lot of brexit voters won't be bothered to come out to vote conservative again at the next GE or for WTO at a second referendum.
The cabinet has also sensibly step up preparation for a no deal brexit, even if the latter never happens, we would still be spending some money to beef up dilapidated and overused infrastructures.
 
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the hard brexiters will come out with plenty of reasons why we shouldn't be order takers, a vassal state etc, and I predict they will do the work for remainers better than they ever could.
The hard brexiters will demonstrate that there will be a high cost to brexit, a lot of brexit voters won't be bothered to come out to vote conservative again at the next GE or for WTO at a second referendum.
The cabinet has also sensibly step up preparation for a no deal brexit, even if the latter never happens, we would still be spending some money to beef up dilapidated and overused infrastructures.
I think you are right, if the Government does more than pay lip service to keep inside the EU customs agreement, the cost will be far more than staying in!
 
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