I was just making the point that most of the 27 are bit part players, freeloaders, so the EU’s pain will not be distributed evenly across all 27 nations.
Whether we will become a sideshow is a matter of opinion.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Whether we will become a sideshow is a matter of opinion.
To both flecc and kudos, .. for 26 of the 27 countries, the loss of the uk trading relationship will be annoying and stunt growth to a small degree. How much will depend on their geographicall proximity. For one country it will serious.. and we would expect assistance from our European neighbours, if and when it comes to pass.
But again I have to repeat what I previously posted some while ago. Germany would be the worst affected but has already stated that the 7% loss to their economy due to losing the UK's custom they can easily withstand. Since that was what they suffered due to the 2008 recession, it's proven, since they rode that ok and are doing well now.
It's still 1 to 27, albeit a number of the 27 very little affected.
If we break away without a deal, we'll be very badly hurt, the EU 27 won't be.
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The 28 nations of the EU are of different sizes and economies, all were at one stage or another basket cases, .. By working together they have upped the standards of living in the poorer areas, without dramatically disimproving them in the richer.. When the UK leaves, there will still be 27 countries, a slightly reduced overall population, but sharing and retaining the same ideals.
Are" bribes" or more properly inducements to increase productivity by developing infrastructure, a more morally repugnant strategy than threats?
There are still plenty of basket case economies in the EU, they’ve not gone away. When the UK money hose is turned off the Germans will feel it most Because they will be expected to make up the shortfall. I don’t think the average German will be grinning then. The reality is that there is a lot of discontentment with the EU amongst the German population at the moment, so in the future after Brexit ....
Indeed, it we walk out without a deal the Germans will be unhappy. But we'll be financially very much worse off.
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we'll be paying in for sometime around the same 11 billions a year. By the time we have reduced or stopped our contribution, the EU budget would have been adjusted to less than it is at the moment. The real hit to the EU is reduction in economic importance compared to other trading blocs. BTW, we will suffer the same, Korea, NZ, the USA etc all wanting to get more quotas out of any deal. Let's just wait to see the first deal we'll make outside the EU.
Some facts maybe? In 2016 you contributed less than Germany, France and Italy. France and Italy contributed much more together than the Germans. Britain is one of nine EU members that are net contributors. So your comment isn't very kind to the 7 other net contributors which aren't Germany...
And just a reminder, the Eurozone is:
Population (2017): 341,008,867
GDP (Nominal, 2016): Total: €10.8 trillion
Per capita: €31,700
Its growth was 0.2 percentage points higher than the US in 2017.
they are bit part players in a pretty impressive production that's about much more than trade - free movement of people, skill, resources (allowing profitable joint ventures like airbus). there's much more at stake than short term pain, profit
Well i did tell you what the oh so simple solution is for your dilemma but obviously your TD Adams have you all brainwashed completely.
An alliance within the UK again, your region will prosper, trade worldwide and inter-UK, industry, trade, infrastructure on a par with the rest of the UK, no more billions of debt to the EBC, the island will be United, and you won`t have to endure those hazardous trips up north again..... the bargains will be on your doorstep!!
What`s not to like???!!!
What's not to like?? ... Where would you like me to begin.....
The island has been united for millennia, or 600 milion years just the people are disunited. And if you wanted to make the separation on geological grounds, you would need to include Louth..
Infrastructure on a par with the UK would that be like Wales?
The hazardous trip north was because of the quality of your infrastructure.
I have already given you my views on our current TD
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However they are not likely to be so unhappy that they resort to violence.......
You forgot the Free Beer, Rainbows and Unicorns, but tell me exactly, how is this going to work?
There you were thinking Harry Potter was fiction but in reality JK has a dirty little secret - she wrote a documentary!
All will be well OG, the wizards will save you!
I can only find stats for 2015 which shows that the U.K. contributed more than Italy, but slightly less than France & Germany, that year. Maybe Italy overtook us the following year, I hope so. That said, take away any of those 4, of which the U.K. is a significant and important part, and there is significantly less cheese available for extras in the EU big show.
I wouldn’t like to say. There is violence already and Merkel hasn’t even brought the supplementary money fountain on line yet.
Will the U.K. still be able to participate in The Eurovision Song Contest post Brexit? That could be a dealbreaker.
Yes Dan, that's all great craic... but,
you`re still nowhere near to solving your present dilemma, ie your neighbour leaving the EU with all it`s ramifications to the ROI.
I have given you folk a rational `get out of jail` card..
no more border issue, your own regional Assembly, trading within the UK, no restraints, and now a big plus, trade with the rest of the world,
spell out the negatives?
You don't fool me, this is a con, intended to be controversial as you are a "Scrictly "Fan!
Which world did you have in mind? this one is already spoken for by the EU!