The Norwegians pay £140 a head, we are paying £220 net. I think the cost of participating in the SM at around £140 per person is OK.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Woosh and I seem to have no difficulty responsing to each others posts within minutes, as I did with the one in question, there must be a glitch somewhere
That's an example of "Goodness Flowing" flecc, all we have to do is to get some control of the Volume and direction it's going in!
Some bargain! save £80 to be under Fascist Rule and face bankruptcy as a Nation, because the punters can't discern the difference between truth and lies?
Utter Madness
The Government is applying the age old methods of persuasion that have served them for so long.
as in the old Navy and Army recruiting Tradition of the King's Shilling and many years of misery at sea or on foreign shores before returning home assuming you made it back at all, sound in wind and limb.
I was under the mistaken impression that application of carrot and stick was only suitable for persuading reluctant Donkeys.
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I agree that £140 is OK, but I'd rather pay the £220 and have the whole benefit of the EU.
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we pay the full rate until now and not getting much listened to.
as an EFTA member, we'd save £4 billions a year and can restrict a bit on FOM.
That should help some face saving.
as an EFTA member, we'd save £4 billions a year and can restrict a bit on FOM.
That should help some face saving.
Not getting much listened to? when 97% of the EU laws and rulings were agreed to and in the main implemented by the UK Government.?
Plus we never paid our way thanks to negotiated rebates, didn't join the Euro or Schengen and got them to agree to no further integration?
What did you want as well as all that?
One might as also the question why the likes of Farage were allowed to act as if they represented the best interests of the UK, when apart fro living off charity he went there with the specific intent of sabotaging the whole organisation.
Sorry "not getting listened to" is an Urban Myth
I think the majority of voters prefer the UK to remain totally independent, albeit realistically, not quite 100% independent. EFTA membership will let us pick and choose which EU directives to implement, to a fair extent, Norway copy and paste some 70% EU laws into theirs.
We won't have the ECJ, we can favour local workforce, EFTA can shield us from ever closer union.
You do realise that all of that we already have, don't you? and there is no way this Government gives a Tinker's Cuss about favouring the local workforce, it simply wants to control and exploit them without them having any recourse to justice.
It is nothing more than an attempt to subjugate the workforce and avoid having a welfare state in any recognisable form.
No way can this be seen as an advantage to the population, only to the rich who's intent is to bring back a feudal economy with serfs at the bottom of the heap.
Look at what is happening already, people are suffering, but be warned, this will only be tolerated so far before the proverbial hits the fan.
The referendum was really a misplaced arrow the voters aimed at the way the country was being run, they had been brought up to believe the Big Bad EU was to blame, the Government wanted to stay so many voters didn't because of that, so they killed two birds with one stone voting for Brexit.
When they finally realise it was our Government all along and things get worse, It only needs some failed Painter with a funny mousetache to come along and light the fuse.
Beware.
And for your information all this independence talk will not prevent the formation of a United States of Europe, it simply means that when we join we will have less influence than any other member states.
Brexit must be classed as the Biggest "Own Goal" of all time.
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No you don't you pay what is left after the Thatcher rebate.
You sent Farage to represent you no one was ever going to listen to him.
.... But Salvador Dali is already dead!!!
... Yes , makes sense. That is the kind of thing a mechanical flywheel based storage could offer and likely be the optimum solution. A DC generator linked to a flywheel could deliver the large current needed for charging and be replenished by a lower power AC supply. .. very old technology brought up to date. If you look at the daily power consumption curve there is a huge lull between 11 pm and 6 am and another in the 2 pm to 5 pm slot. Using lower priced electricity , even petrol service stations could get in on the act.
.. yep and he wasn't even a failed painter...
.. There was an interesting statement yesterday by the Irish republics leader regarding the status of a border between the two parts of Ireland. You will be aware that this is one of the 4 main items to be agreed before there can be any discussion of post Brexit deals.
In essence Leo said, we don't want a border, we are not going to design a solution for you. We want free traffic throughout the island. Any solution that you propose we will examine.
You meaning UK , we meaning ROI and EU, but primarily ROI.
I want to associate myself with those sentiments....
There had been some handwaving arguements that some type of electronic tagging of goods could be implemented. There is some 400 miles of border and a multitude of approved and normal roads , lanes, boreens , cattle paths and even farmhouse doors straddling this border..
Good luck to the eggheads in Whitehall!
There aren't any, they are on Tele just after pointless...which seems quite apt.
We are going to get a favourable free trade deal with the EU....Davis promises
We are going to get 3 years transition to sort ourselves out...Hammond promises
We are going to remain friends with Europe....May promises
We are not paying the EU an exit bill....Boris promises
We are going to do free trade deals with China and US.....Fox promises
We are going to keep the EU people we need for NHS and industry and the farms...Rudd promises
We are leaving the EU and be better off after Brexit....Rees Mogg promises
Thank goodness we have all these 'reliable' people who have planned out our future and the EU/China and the US take their rightful place in the scheme of things,we are Great Britain after all and the rest have to bow down and do our bidding. The English aristocratic class will soon put these subservient foreigners in their place and May and Co will reign supreme over the world.
Thank goodness I thought we were in trouble,but we have our best people on the job.
Oops......just woken up....must stop Sunday Afternoon naps,dreaming again.
KudosDave
We are going to get 3 years transition to sort ourselves out...Hammond promises
We are going to remain friends with Europe....May promises
We are not paying the EU an exit bill....Boris promises
We are going to do free trade deals with China and US.....Fox promises
We are going to keep the EU people we need for NHS and industry and the farms...Rudd promises
We are leaving the EU and be better off after Brexit....Rees Mogg promises
Thank goodness we have all these 'reliable' people who have planned out our future and the EU/China and the US take their rightful place in the scheme of things,we are Great Britain after all and the rest have to bow down and do our bidding. The English aristocratic class will soon put these subservient foreigners in their place and May and Co will reign supreme over the world.
Thank goodness I thought we were in trouble,but we have our best people on the job.
Oops......just woken up....must stop Sunday Afternoon naps,dreaming again.
KudosDave
we only have to guess who is going to replace TM and eliminate all the promises from the other ministers.