Brexit, for once some facts.

Zlatan

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Now then..... just because their real name is Saxe Gotha, there's no need for that sort of talk, by Jove!
Their real name was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha...not your normal accurate self OG

I reckon she,s either been caught using kodi box or listing Scotland on ebay to pay EU fine .
 
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Their real name was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha...not your normal accurate self OG

I reckon she,s either been caught using kodi box or listing Scotland on ebay to pay EU fine .
Of course, I stand corrected[emoji1]

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For all those not old enough to remember, alternatively, insufficiently well-read in modern political history to know about this, here is what the leader of Britain's greatest, modernising government had to say about the tory party in 1945:

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If ever proof were needed that the tories never change, any dispassionate look at what capitalist government has done to society, just since 2010, can leave no doubt that they do not represent anyone outside of the monarchy, aristocracy and business communities. Those ordinary folk who have their tax deducted at source and suffer austerity while the tax-avoiding rich get ever richer need to wake up and vote for the only party which can represent their needs. Only Labour can do that and end this class war being waged by the rich bullies, born into uncountable wealth.

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oldgroaner

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She,s abdicating.. Handing over to Charlie...
Or she,s planning to stand in election. She,d walk in...get my vote over May, Corbyn or Farron. Perhaps time to abandon democracy ( if we,ve ever trully had it) and return to Aristocracy...not a bad idea..(she,s a brexiteer aswell,)
Wrong as usual the rumour is that Philip has landed a job at the local McDonalds.
 
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Disregarding all the other tripe about the "Brexit Dinner" this sentence uttered by May should disqualify her on the grounds of incompetence from representing our interests
"“Threats against Britain have been issued by European politicians and officials. All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election which will take place on 8 June.”

There have been statements not threats, and reports in Foreign Newspapers!

She needs to be replaced by someone that doesn't suffer from the same mouth open brain off that Boris does.
With her leading the charge our cause (assuming anyone knows what that is)
is doomed to defeat.
 

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Those ordinary folk who have their tax deducted at source and suffer austerity while the tax-avoiding rich get ever richer need to wake up
The most obvious revelation of the true Tory ambitions was in George Osbourne's release of peoples pensions.

That had been the one bit of ordinary peoples money that the rich couldn't immediately get their hands on. They often can now when the foolish release their pension fund and fall prey to the alternative pensions industry.

There was no excuse for Osbourne's measure, which put the future of the masses at serious risk.
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oldgroaner

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An interesting night indeed in the Council elections, Labour and the Lib Dems fared badly, UKIP disastrously.
Poor old UKIP some might say, who would have thought they would have put in all that effort to have the prize stolen from them by May and co?

Everything is shaping up for May to achive a huge majority and then plunge the country into a hard Brexit.

The old biblical expression "Thus beginneth the lesson" will apply to the nation after Brexit.
Then we will rejoin the EU
In the meantime kiss the NHS and Social Progress goodbye for now.
 
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in last night's QT, when the question was about the way the media depicts Mr Corbyn, the most memorable quote was from a young participant: 'people vote for personality and lies'.
I always suspected that Mr Corbyn's strategy of not lying could not win in a GE.
 

oldgroaner

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in last night's QT, when the question was about the way the media depicts Mr Corbyn, the most memorable quote was from a young participant: 'people vote for personality and lies'.
I always suspected that Mr Corbyn's strategy of not lying could not win in a GE.
Events are about to prove you right!
 
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Zlatan

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Much as I agree with the criticism of attacks on Corbyn it does seem most are ambivalent to the situation he has in no small way contributed.
The Labour party has completely and utterly collapsed leaving us in a one horse race nobody really seems to want to win. A half credible leader of labour could have won this next election..As it is May is going to ( as I predicted) walk it with a much stronger majority. Yes, you can try and blame right wing press,or whatever you like. Simple fact is there is no opposition to Tories. Who,s fault is that ? Corbyn ,Blair and idiots like Abbot..not the right wing press at all.
 

oldgroaner

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Much as I agree with the criticism of attacks on Corbyn it does seem most are ambivalent to the situation he has in no small way contributed.
The Labour party has completely and utterly collapsed leaving us in a one horse race nobody really seems to want to win. A half credible leader of labour could have won this next election..As it is May is going to ( as I predicted) walk it with a much stronger majority. Yes, you can try and blame right wing press,or whatever you like. Simple fact is there is no opposition to Tories. Who,s fault is that ? Corbyn ,Blair and idiots like Abbot..not the right wing press at all.
Come off it! The right wing press have waged a generations long campaign to undermine labour and they continue to do so on a daily basis.
And that goes for the other media too.
Virtually a solid wall of criticism has been raised against Corbyn on every side and you would have to be blind not to see it.
All politicians make blunders, the media and press excuse right wingers and persecute the left every time.
Having said that Corbyn and co are an irrelevance, their rubber stamping Brexit was literally the last straw..
It was as good a decision as Lincoln's to go to the Opera

In many ways this is all good news, as it will make the lesson that the public are about to learn about both Brexit and Tory rule all the more poignant and telling.
Fear of the unknown is impelling the Public into the arms of it's worse enemies, and there can only be one result from that.
With a landslide election victory behind them May and co will throw all caution and good sense to the wind.
Power corrupts, and absolute Power due to a landslide election victory will be seen as a Green light to the Tory party to rip into the public purse, but destroying the NHS, Profiteering and corruption will in the end be their undoing.
Brexit will end in tears
 
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A Yugoslavian friend just shared this observation, i don't know enough to be able to comment. But it did worry me.

"Britain reminds me of the former Yugoslavia.
English are Serbs
Scott are Croats
Welsh are Montenegro
And North Ireland is Macedonia
May is like Milošević, she is trying to sell English interests under British flag ."
 

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