... You would probably fill our largest football stadium 80,000 people who would support that idea, but they would be swamped by those who differ.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Good news after the House of Lords vote is that Farage is spitting feathers!
Have you forgotten my previous posts? I am looking forward to it, and what comes after even more, as you need to learn the hard way
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that is a good thing.
Parliament must be in the driving seat to reflect the will of the people.
That's about as logical as a belief in Brexit being succesful!
No matter what the result all that will be expressed is the will of Parliament, what have the people got to do with it?
What that man needs is a coating of Tar so he doesn't lose them all!
You tend to conveniently forget that 52% voted for brexit. Parliament has to deliver on the substantive issue that has been decided and choose a path that keeps as many voters on board as possible, that means not in the hand of any one party, and possibly keep the door ajar just enough in case people change their mind in the next two years.
Mr Corbyn should do his job now.
And you forget that 52% equals only a quarter of the population.
Brexit was the decision of a FACTION of the public it follows Brexit is
The will of the Larger FACTION of those who voted in the Referendum.
The will of the people has not been proven to be expressed, as not enough have been involved to amount to that.
And rather like the MOT test, a couple of days after the actual event, it proves nothing.
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You can't use that old chestnut that 17 millions out of 65 millions so it didn't count, you forgot to take into account that the under 18 can't vote.
Of course, there is no way to know how the country would have voted if the vote was compulsory. The turnout for the referendum is 84.6%, the highest on record in recent memory. That's pretty representative to me.
Of course, there is no way to know how the country would have voted if the vote was compulsory. The turnout for the referendum is 84.6%, the highest on record in recent memory. That's pretty representative to me.
Correction to above. Only 25% of the population voted to remain in the EU.
A faction that only had 4% less support than the faction that won on the day, rememberm both sides were merely a faction of the public and therefore cannot be said to express the "Will of the people" can it?
And who is to say the level of support for either faction's point of view now?
We should not be committed irevocably to a course of action on the basis of such a slim majority especially when the level of understanding of the issues involved at the time was so meagre , and even more significantly after negotiations make things plainer.
Only an absolute idiot accepts being bullied into a deal they cannot back out of if it turns out not to their liking just because they ticked a box, when not in posession of an understanding what the bill was going to be six months previously.
The attached infographic describes the fascist creature who is determined to drag the UK out of the EU. She is the leader of the political party which looks after the interests of the royal family, the aristocracy, business moguls and bankers, all at the expense of ordinary, PAYE, working people through their taxes.
Those ordinary people have had to endure unnecessary, tory austerity measures and that continues to this day while the bankers who caused the economic collapse still receive huge bonuses, even after bail-outs from the public purse.
This Westminster government is prepared to sacrifice Scotland, NI and possibly Gibraltar because they cannot bully the EU and can no longer rape other nations as they did with the Scots and Irish, their nearest neighbours, not to mention Africa, India and the middle-east, even into the latter half of the twentieth century.
May has declared this country to be a friend of Israel in spite of their genocide of the Palestinian people. She has also openly praised Donald Trump, a racist and misogynist billionaire. She does none of these things in my name!
Perhaps most appallingly, she declares herself a Christian and states that her faith lies behind all that she does!
May and her inbred tory/UKIP friends, along with Trump, Erdogan and Kim Jong-Un are the most dangerous people on the planet and those who vote in the UK for May's party are just as much deluded sociopaths as the tory leadership.
Tom
Those ordinary people have had to endure unnecessary, tory austerity measures and that continues to this day while the bankers who caused the economic collapse still receive huge bonuses, even after bail-outs from the public purse.
This Westminster government is prepared to sacrifice Scotland, NI and possibly Gibraltar because they cannot bully the EU and can no longer rape other nations as they did with the Scots and Irish, their nearest neighbours, not to mention Africa, India and the middle-east, even into the latter half of the twentieth century.
May has declared this country to be a friend of Israel in spite of their genocide of the Palestinian people. She has also openly praised Donald Trump, a racist and misogynist billionaire. She does none of these things in my name!
Perhaps most appallingly, she declares herself a Christian and states that her faith lies behind all that she does!
May and her inbred tory/UKIP friends, along with Trump, Erdogan and Kim Jong-Un are the most dangerous people on the planet and those who vote in the UK for May's party are just as much deluded sociopaths as the tory leadership.
Tom
First of all to address the issue regarding funding for Her Majesty The Queen. She is worth every pound spent.
I see now that you are one of those anti-Royal types, which dovetails perfectly with your pro-EU stance. This adds further to my resolve that we are absolutely heading in the right direction with regard to BREXIT.
Her Majesty dealt with, let us now turn to the remainder of your passage. All very amusing and good for a giggle, but something doesn't quite gel with the idea of a Tory plot to drag us out of the EU for the purpose of exploitation by unscrupulous employers. The bit that doesn't gel is the Tory party are only luke warm about BREXIT. The prime minister at the time and his chancellor were positively against BREXIT. If you had to say which way Mrs May was leaning prior to the referendum, you would be bound to say remain. The same goes for many other prominent figures in government. So, I don't subscribe to your "Tory Plot" notion. It's nonsense.
Finally, I do believe that Mrs May has been a follower of the Christian faith for many years.
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We mustn't tar them all with the same brush On the basis of them following the same faith.
Budget restrictions. Same brush for all I say!We mustn't tar them all with the same brush On the basis of them following the same faith.
I think we can in this case. Since the early 19th century the Church of England has been known as "TheTory Party at Prayer".We mustn't tar them all with the same brush On the basis of them following the same faith.
With Theresa May the Tory prime minister and Tony Blair a pseudo Tory, both C of E, the cap fits.
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No tillson it's politics, they have decided there is more money in a new racket and been provided with a great excuse called the "Will of the people " to go into Protection rackets instead of simply Mugging the Public.
All very logical, rather like American Gangsters had to find new opportunities when Prohibition was repealed.
They were dead against it then, but since have found a way to use it as a weapon to fleece the public, so now it's in Vogue.
What wonderful morals they have! what's to stop them betraying you again?
How can you trust people with the morals of Vultures?