Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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First of all to address the issue regarding funding for Her Majesty The Queen. She is worth every pound spent.

I see now that you are one of those anti-Royal types, which dovetails perfectly with your pro-EU stance. This adds further to my resolve that we are absolutely heading in the right direction with regard to BREXIT.

Her Majesty dealt with, let us now turn to the remainder of your passage. All very amusing and good for a giggle, but something doesn't quite gel with the idea of a Tory plot to drag us out of the EU for the purpose of exploitation by unscrupulous employers. The bit that doesn't gel is the Tory party are only luke warm about BREXIT. The prime minister at the time and his chancellor were positively against BREXIT. If you had to say which way Mrs May was leaning prior to the referendum, you would be bound to say remain. The same goes for many other prominent figures in government. So, I don't subscribe to your "Tory Plot" notion. It's nonsense.

Finally, I do believe that Mrs May has been a follower of the Christian faith for many years.
What has being Pro EU got to do with liking or disliking the Royal Family?
Come on tillson, no one is going to fall for this hypocritical Mock Patriotism you are selling...you are Trumping again!
 
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tillson

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No tillson it's politics, they have decided there is more money in a new racket and been provided with a great excuse called the "Will of the people " to go into Protection rackets instead of simply Mugging the Public.
All very logical, rather like American Gangsters had to find new opportunities when Prohibition was repealed.
They were dead against it then, but since have found a way to use it as a weapon to fleece the public, so now it's in Vogue.
What wonderful morals they have! what's to stop them betraying you again?
How can you trust people with the morals of Vultures?
Oh, I see. No one in the Conservative party had ever spotted this "opportunity" until after the referendum, then the penny dropped and this great facist plan has been conceived and hatched on the hoof since June. OG I'm afraid you are a joke. I think those Space Nazis have been orbiting over your house again.
 
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What has being Pro EU got to do with liking or disliking the Royal Family?
Come on tillson, no one is going to fall for this hypocritical Mock Patriotism you are selling...you are Trumping again!
The Dutch, Belgians, Danish, Spanish, Swedish and French all have kings and queens and the EU works fine for them. Luxembourg and a few others only have princes... :rolleyes:
 

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The Dutch, Belgians, Danish, Spanish, Swedish and French all have kings and queens and the EU works fine for them. Luxembourg and a few others only have princes... :rolleyes:
They've run out of Emperors though, since Bonaparte.

Unless we count Jean-Claude Juncker. ;)
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oldgroaner

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Oh, I see. No one in the Conservative party had ever spotted this "opportunity" until after the referendum, then the penny dropped and this great facist plan has been conceived and hatched on the hoof since June. OG I'm afraid you are a joke. I think those Space Nazis have been orbiting over your house again.
If there was an "opportunity" for Brexit before the referendum that leaves you with the obvious conclusions
The Torys must have been too thick to see it, before the Referendum which leads on to a further logical conclusion
They are just as thick in imagining that an opportunity is afforded by Brexit, surely after the Referendum

Let's use our imagination and postulate they are not entirely stupid


The logical answer is that they didn't think the Public were gullible enough to fall for being swindled using Brexit as an excuse, before the Referndum ,but have been encouraged because enough people were conned into voting for it to take them to the cleaners as they have not merely "asked for it" but demanded it.

You are about to be Rogered with a Rag Man's Rusty Trumpet, as you seem so determined to be!
Close your eyes and spout patriotic nonsense:D
 
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The French do not have a royal family. They may well have pretenders ... The clue is in the name.
Yes, three pretenders.

Jean-Christophe, "Prince Napoleon"

Henri d'Orléans, Count of Paris

Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou
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oldtom

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[QUOTE="tillson, post: 362441, member: 991"Her Majesty The Queen. She is worth every pound spent.
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Oh, quelle surprise 'tillson'! Your juvenile retort enveloped in mock patriotism speaks volumes about your sociopathic tendencies.

Your knowledge of British history is clearly tainted but as you are stupid enough to believe the claptrap promulgated by liars, misogynists, financial cheats as well as being an apologist for murderous fascist scum, that comes as no surprise to me.

Tom
 
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anotherkiwi

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The French do not have a royal family. They may well have pretenders ... The clue is in the name.
Oh no, I was talking about the President of the Republic, the elected king under the 5th Republic. Or at least they carry on as if they were king... :rolleyes:
 
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First of all to address the issue regarding funding for Her Majesty The Queen. She is worth every pound spent.

I see now that you are one of those anti-Royal types, which dovetails perfectly with your pro-EU stance. This adds further to my resolve that we are absolutely heading in the right direction with regard to BREXIT.

Her Majesty dealt with, let us now turn to the remainder of your passage. All very amusing and good for a giggle, but something doesn't quite gel with the idea of a Tory plot to drag us out of the EU for the purpose of exploitation by unscrupulous employers. The bit that doesn't gel is the Tory party are only luke warm about BREXIT. The prime minister at the time and his chancellor were positively against BREXIT. If you had to say which way Mrs May was leaning prior to the referendum, you would be bound to say remain. The same goes for many other prominent figures in government. So, I don't subscribe to your "Tory Plot" notion. It's nonsense.

Finally, I do believe that Mrs May has been a follower of the Christian faith for many years.
The Queen will not thank Theresa May if this government results in the break up of the union....bang goes May's knighthood!!!!
Even if Brexit looked like an idea of Baldrick,that bitch named May would still want it,because end of Brexit would be end of May,she probably doesnt want it but now she has no choice....any Brexit will do for her.
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Kudoscycles

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I think we can in this case. Since the early 19th century the Church of England has been known as "TheTory Party at Prayer".

With Theresa May the Tory prime minister and Tony Blair a pseudo Tory, both C of E, the cap fits.
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I live in Canterbury,home of the Anglican church....they are known as the most uncaring landlords in our city....their rents are extortionate and plus the new business rates more small businesses will suffer.
The Catholic and Anglican churches both should be ashamed of the paedophiles within their ranks,disgraceful organisations...pull the cathedral down,30 acres of building land on a brownbelt site.
No need to buy type 1,plenty of rubble from the old building,hehe !!!
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Kudoscycles

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Oh, I see. No one in the Conservative party had ever spotted this "opportunity" until after the referendum, then the penny dropped and this great facist plan has been conceived and hatched on the hoof since June. OG I'm afraid you are a joke. I think those Space Nazis have been orbiting over your house again.
You know that the UKIP element of the Tory party have been a nuisance for years,that was why Cameron called the referendum,to get rid of these fascists once and for all,it certainly backfired on him!!!!and us!!!!
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oldtom

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The French do not have a royal family. They may well have pretenders ... The clue is in the name.
Indeed, although this fellow is deemed by some to be the best bet as the rightful heir to the French throne today;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Alphonse,_Duke_of_Anjou

Their loss isn't really mourned by French people and from what I understand, the Russians are in no hurry to re-introduce czardom; the Germans and Italians are managing quite nicely without royalty and the Americans really don't have any need of royals - no surprise there considering the way they were treated previously by the British royal family.

The Irish also seem content not to advertise for a replacement for Brian Boru, the last High King of All Ireland.

But here in the UK, it's sweet and it's nice and it's quaint and if only they could do the job Kings and Queens used to do, we could dispense with 650 MPs and over 800 Lords who really aren't very good at all at running the country.

As we really don't need both, yet there is this ongoing need to make cuts and savings, which gang should we dispense with?

Tom
 
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.perhaps I missed something?????
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no, you did not.
The only good thing in the budget was the jokes and they were not very good (driverless car: members of the opposition know something about it).
 

oldgroaner

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You know that the UKIP element of the Tory party have been a nuisance for years,that was why Cameron called the referendum,to get rid of these fascists once and for all,it certainly backfired on him!!!!and us!!!!
KudosDave
It is usual when infested with Vermin to call in Rentokil surely? and have them put down baited traps, much safer and quite Humane, once you have them safely held in a trap you can always deposit them somewhere they can lead a natural life .
North Korea in the springtime sounds about the ticket.
 
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Indeed, although this fellow is deemed by some to be the best bet as the rightful heir to the French throne today;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Alphonse,_Duke_of_Anjou

Their loss isn't really mourned by French people and from what I understand, the Russians are in no hurry to re-introduce czardom; the Germans and Italians are managing quite nicely without royalty and the Americans really don't have any need of royals - no surprise there considering the way they were treated previously by the British royal family.

The Irish also seem content not to advertise for a replacement for Brian Boru, the last High King of All Ireland.

But here in the UK, it's sweet and it's nice and it's quaint and if only they could do the job Kings and Queens used to do, we could dispense with 650 MPs and over 800 Lords who really aren't very good at all at running the country.

As we really don't need both, yet there is this ongoing need to make cuts and savings, which gang should we dispense with?

Tom
... Brian Boru was also overlord of Scotland, for a short period around 1006. , So after brexit who knows..
 

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