Is this an example of fake news that Trump has warned us about!!!!!
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Do you mind I would have to be dragged out of my Audi,best car I have ever owned. And before anyone says about we wont buy German cars any more because of 10% tariffs,I would buy another Audi if it cost 10% more.
Got to be honest!!!!
KudosDave
Nothis is how it works:
Does the green shape look like a beam to you?
The high efficiency comes from the beam. The coils act as collimators.
The amount of transfer of energy is proportional to the amount of magnetic flux. To make the application for a moving car, the car has to go over a delimited track, the coils will be laid along the track. A system will detect an approaching car, then fire the coil, then the next coil and so on. The danger is the coupling time at resonance is extremely short, maybe sub millisecond. Not very usable for moving cars otherwise many people would have tried.
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This was the statement made by Jeremy Corbyn following the Commons vote:
Labour has demonstrated that we respect the result of the referendum by voting to begin negotiations to leave the EU, with the overwhelming majority of Labour MPs supporting our party’s position.
In recent weeks, Labour has forced the government to reveal what their plan for Brexit actually is.
Both from their public statements and the amendments their MPs have voted down, the Conservatives have made clear they are determined to use Brexit to turn Britain into a bargain basement tax haven.
Labour has a profoundly different vision for our country, with a plan to rebuild and transform Britain so that no one and no community is left behind.
Article 50 is just the start of the negotiating process. Labour will be using every opportunity, both in Parliament and in the country, to protect jobs, rights and living standards, and achieve the best possible deal for Britain.
So, the way I read that, the Labour party will continue to acquiesce all the way through the process now. I hope I'm wrong but most of what he said was simply party-political rhetoric with no description, just as with the tories, of 'best possible deal'.
It looks to me like Labour has no plan either for a post-'Brexit' UK and I don't see any option to reject the 'best possible deal', even though it may fall well short of the deal we have right now as members of the EU.
After 7 months post-referendum, we seem to have moved the language from 'Brexit means Brexit' on to 'Best possible deal' yet we still have no clue as to what we might come away with or how much more expensive our imported goods might be from our close friends on mainland Europe.
Have our negotiators found some amazing bargaining chips they can use to secure a fantastic deal from the EU which requires total secrecy?
Still, the Germans and lots of other Europeans really like British humour and our TV comedies have given them lots of laughs. I'm sure there won't be any tears shed over the UK's departure as this has been comedic all the way through.
Tom
Labour has demonstrated that we respect the result of the referendum by voting to begin negotiations to leave the EU, with the overwhelming majority of Labour MPs supporting our party’s position.
In recent weeks, Labour has forced the government to reveal what their plan for Brexit actually is.
Both from their public statements and the amendments their MPs have voted down, the Conservatives have made clear they are determined to use Brexit to turn Britain into a bargain basement tax haven.
Labour has a profoundly different vision for our country, with a plan to rebuild and transform Britain so that no one and no community is left behind.
Article 50 is just the start of the negotiating process. Labour will be using every opportunity, both in Parliament and in the country, to protect jobs, rights and living standards, and achieve the best possible deal for Britain.
So, the way I read that, the Labour party will continue to acquiesce all the way through the process now. I hope I'm wrong but most of what he said was simply party-political rhetoric with no description, just as with the tories, of 'best possible deal'.
It looks to me like Labour has no plan either for a post-'Brexit' UK and I don't see any option to reject the 'best possible deal', even though it may fall well short of the deal we have right now as members of the EU.
After 7 months post-referendum, we seem to have moved the language from 'Brexit means Brexit' on to 'Best possible deal' yet we still have no clue as to what we might come away with or how much more expensive our imported goods might be from our close friends on mainland Europe.
Have our negotiators found some amazing bargaining chips they can use to secure a fantastic deal from the EU which requires total secrecy?
Still, the Germans and lots of other Europeans really like British humour and our TV comedies have given them lots of laughs. I'm sure there won't be any tears shed over the UK's departure as this has been comedic all the way through.
Tom
Try the XF 3.0 d...just got one from 530d ...Had E350 cdi...Jag best of lot...its incredible.. Simply love it. Got to be 3.0 tho...Could not believe how quick it is..
I wouldn't. It would be Indian cars for me, Jaguar or Land Rover.
Audi make good cars, but unfortunately they have a reputation of being purchased by knob heads and driven by complete tools. They seem to have taken over the mantle from angry faced Beamer drivers on motorways.
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I agree for society in the foreseeable future and haven't dismissed anything, I just presented some alternatives.
They included a very long term possibility of being largely car free. As impossible it might seem to you now, it will happen one day long into the future.
Here's a taster of what is already happening;
London car ownership has been continually declining for a long time now, despite the rise in car ownership elsewhere in Britain. There are now roughly three cars for every four households in London, compared to almost five cars per four housholds elsewhere in the country. Thats a reverse of what used to be, showing how circumstances can influence people away from cars.
And my own circumstances are a microcosm of that. A few years ago all my Greater London friends owned cars, but now only two still do. The others use public transport, supplemented in one case with some utility bike usage though he'd never cycled before as an adult.
No Stalin involved, just an accumulation of pressures and changes in facilities.
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Public transport in cities like London is much better than in rural areas where it is being cut. Supply and demand and lack of support from central government
I wouldn't dream of dragging you out of your Audi, or wish to deny you the best product for the job. It was treating cars as posing pouches rather than just the transport that they are that I object to.
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Of course, just the point I'm making to Zlatan. One doesn't need a dictator to get people out of cars, good subsidised public transport enjoying preferential facilities, combined with increasingly bad congestion and ever higher costs for the cars does the trick, as London has shown.
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We had the Iron Age; The Bronze Age and the current age is without doubt the Car Age...
To assume its demise even in far future just fails to account for human nature. Folk love cars and the freedom they represent. To simply view them as a mode of transport by any future government would simply mean they would never hold onto power...
As we at the moment there is no society without cars..Its simply how it is. I remember in late 60's folk saying car and ICE had had its day.. Its with us for a long long time yet.
You can not use London as an example flecc, its totally unrepresentitive of the other 99% of the world.
Car is king...
That's completely missing point flecc. You are viewing cars as transport and from point of us old men.
Car usage throughout world is rising. Folk in India are selling their mopeds by the drove and buying cars. What happens in London accounts for perhaps 1% if what's happening in India alone..China Brazil,Pakistan,South Korea, Eastern Europe are all seeing massive growth in car sales.. What we do is insignificant. Those countries will be going through process we went through 40 years ago...
Unfortunately its the massive dilemma environmentalists face. To have any affect you need to stop progress and freedom in the parts of world we actually need " hungry" for the things we took and take for granted. Tell the newly rich Indian in Delhi he cant have his Porsche, or the successfull Brazilian he should not pollute air with his Range Rover. Its not going to happen.
Every London Citizen could give up his car, pedal to work and come home on an electric bus and feel proud, knowing they had done their bit for the environment....in London...whilst China,India,Pakistan,Brazil etc etc keep on churning out pollutants but enjoying the personal freedom cars bring.
Might be cynical but its how it is.
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You're stuck in the rut of the present, the world continuously changes. That's why i used London as an entirely approriate example, an indication of the direction the world is taking. Ever more population and overcrowding, necessity to give preferential treatment to public transport at the expense of private vehicles, impossibility of keeping cars moving due to decreasing spare space, removal of car space for public transport and cycling, never ending rises in car running costs.
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You are completely missing the point I made that it's the long term future I'm looking at. Of course those countries will follow us in adopting cars. But they also eventually follow us all the way into the London style car ownership disadvantages and increasingly give them up in the same way and for the same reasons.
It's the inevitable consequence of ever increasing population and ever growing travel needs on a planet that isn't growing.
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Sort of: "Listen, we are leaving and you had better give us the best possible deal! Or else!" Or else what? you'll leave? LMFAO
I think that cars might become smaller, but it's wrong to use London as an example.
London created its own problems by wanting to be a world class city.
Most British people live away from bus routes, many do not have more than two or three a day, some do not have any at all.
I do not like London at all and certainly would not like to live in the peculiar conditions that Londoners seem to love.
By Londoners, I include people who have moved there such as my cousin and who absolutely love the place.
London created its own problems by wanting to be a world class city.
Most British people live away from bus routes, many do not have more than two or three a day, some do not have any at all.
I do not like London at all and certainly would not like to live in the peculiar conditions that Londoners seem to love.
By Londoners, I include people who have moved there such as my cousin and who absolutely love the place.
The age of the petrol powered car is coming to an end. I think that is a good thing, just look at the jobs Elon Musk has created making an acceptable electric car. Look at the alternative means of individual transport we now have: Twizy, s-pedelec, vélomobile...
Humans are at their best when they are inventing new and interesting solutions to problems. If I extrapolate from that May and Trump aren't human beings because they want us to go back to the bad old 1930s...
Humans are at their best when they are inventing new and interesting solutions to problems. If I extrapolate from that May and Trump aren't human beings because they want us to go back to the bad old 1930s...
How the heck are these imbeciles going to get "The Best deal for Britain" by standing by and watching that very thing trashed before their eyes?
We have the best deal already!
And even changing the mode of transport opens another can of worms!The age of the petrol powered car is coming to an end. I think that is a good thing, just look at the jobs Elon Musk has created making an acceptable electric car. Look at the alternative means of individual transport we now have: Twizy, s-pedelec, vélomobile...
Humans are at their best when they are inventing new and interesting solutions to problems. If I extrapolate from that May and Trump aren't human beings because they want us to go back to the bad old 1930s...
Chinese cities crack down on electric bikes
Users of electric bikes are the latest target of Beijing’s ongoing campaign to bring order to its chaotic, traffic-clogged streets.
Beijing currently has four million e-bikes, according to media reports.
Transportation authority statistics show 31,404 accidents last year involved e-bikes, with 113 people killed and 21,423 injured, accounting for 37% of all traffic accident injuries.
More crucially, experts say a ban on e-bikes would likely boost the sales of cars, which contribute to dangerously high levels of particulate pollution in the capital.
“If we do away with them (e-bikes) people will have no option but to buy cars, which are larger and polluting, Chou Baoxing, a State Council advisor and former minister for housing and urban-rural development, said in an interview with Caijing magazine.
The car manufacturers would likely benefit, and traffic police will deal with fewer offences, but the city’s environment will suffer, with poorer air quality and increased congestion, Chou added.
Ah well you an win 'em all!