Brexit, for once some facts.

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“Wireless charging is a technology that our customers have told us they are interested in,” said Pamela Fletcher, GM Executive Chief Engineer – Electrified Vehicles.
Unless of course this is a Confidence trick on the Scale of Brexit!
In effect you could say that, it's just an announcement of what people would like to keep interest and gain publicity.

We won't see it in practice.
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Are there no depths to which this fascist government will sink in order to railroad through their 'Brexit' plan?

The tone from tory right-wingers seems to have taken on a sinister, new dimension with a threat to abolish the H of L if the occupants there fail to do their 'patriotic duty'. I am sure the absence of a concerted opposition has helped in that regard and while I am supportive of Jeremy Corbyn's attitude to most matters which concern parliament, I believe he is mistaken on not challenging the tories every inch of the way on the progress of this matter.

I believe parliamentary democracy demands effective opposition and to acquiesce in such a momentous, and probably irreversible, decision without safeguards in place, while hiding behind the myth, 'will of the people', is a perversion of the intent behind both democracy and that of a referendum. In that regard, I am conscious of Nigel Farage's statement about how his movement would have regarded such a close referendum result, had the figures been reversed. I think the term was 'unfinished business'.

To allow the matter such easy progress so far has permitted the fascist movement to proceed unchecked and they are now using the kind of language employed in 1930s Germany while they ride roughshod over the remainder of the parliamentary channels.

I have to say that Clive Lewis gained a lot of respect from me over his decision yesterday to resign his Labour front bench position on a point of principle. Conversely, I was disgusted by the leader of the quisling party, Tim Farron, trying to make political capital out of the situation as leader of a party with no discernible policies on anything other than perhaps regaining a seat at the top table in another tory-driven coalition purely to prevent a Labour government. How quickly the public forgets!

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Yes, but if the lightning current also travels through the tyres integral coils, the output will fry everything instantly, controller, motor, any battery and charger in circuit.
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It has tendency to do that with Engine management sytems now, but you can get the same result by purchasing a "Vauxhall spontaneous Combusting Zafira"
If that brightens your day..
Just to keep on Topic they will cost more after Brexit so buy one now!
 
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December 20, 2016 WiTricity, the industry pioneer in wireless power transfer over distance,
OG, the key word is to park the car first.
The circuit needs a little time to collimate the beam.
On the motorway, assuming the coil diameter is 1m, the car will pass over it in 31 milliseconds. Even with perfect electronics, you can only transfer a fraction of the 7.7KW that you may with a parked car.
 

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In effect you could say that, it's just an announcement of what people would like to keep interest and gain publicity.

We won't see it in practice.
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Oh ye of little Faith
(Admittedly considerable experience, but this is not a Forum where that counts for much, let's have a little Brexit boom Faith here.)

Yes, I know this is an attempt to get back on topic, so a little help won't go amiss!
 
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OG, the key word is to park the car first.
The circuit needs a little time to collimate the beam.
On the motorway, assuming the coil diameter is 1m, the car will pass over it in 31 milliseconds. Even with perfect electronics, you can only transfer a fraction of the 7.7KW that you may if parked.
This is a little like "there isn't a Father Christmas!"
This is not a system that utilises a beam , but certainly you would only get a proportional charge base on time of engagement of the fields and that is where the charge in the Garage will come in.

For mobile applications there would have to be some sort of buried matrixed transmitters under the road surface to extend the contact time possibly in mile long areas every ten miles for instance and rely on battery power only in between zones.
Impractical at present, but in future?
 
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Lest anyone has forgotten:

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Tom
Naturally!
But they have kept their promise to Rupert Murdoch
Democracy, who needs it? is the cry "Brexit and bust!"
Whoops I think that is supposed to read "or" bust (but who believes that anymore?)

By the way does anyone know if tillson has got back from his "Polish Plumber training course" yet.
He knows a thing or too and has a "Holy" oops "Holistic" attitude to Brexit and the training course shows what a "smart cookie" he really is!
Be prepared, eh?;)
 
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For mobile applications there would have to be some sort of buried matrixed transmitters under the road surface to extend the contact time possibly in mile long areas every ten miles for instance and rely on battery power only in between zones.
Impractical at present, but in future?
The costs and complexity of such a system makes the alternatives much more likely though, here's some:

The simplest way, rail or overhead wires auto-attach system for picking up current trolley bus/tram fashion, cars with short range batteries to carry though gaps in the system.

The more sensible social solution, eliminate the questionable need for so much travelling, removing private cars from the planet.

Much more comprehensive coverage rail systems.
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Vox Political have this today:

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/02/09/planned-no-confidence-vote-in-commons-speaker-john-bercow-shows-how-out-of-touch-tories-are/

The tories turn upon one of their own because he spoke the truth about a fascist - whatever next?

Tom
There will be a new Commandment to add to the Ten as in

11: Thou shalt not Criticise anyone living or dead (even brain Dead) holding high office that that approves Brexit and can offer a trade deal
 

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Are there no depths to which this fascist government will sink in order to railroad through their 'Brexit' plan?

The tone from tory right-wingers seems to have taken on a sinister, new dimension with a threat to abolish the H of L if the occupants there fail to do their 'patriotic duty'. I am sure the absence of a concerted opposition has helped in that regard and while I am supportive of Jeremy Corbyn's attitude to most matters which concern parliament, I believe he is mistaken on not challenging the tories every inch of the way on the progress of this matter.

I believe parliamentary democracy demands effective opposition and to acquiesce in such a momentous, and probably irreversible, decision without safeguards in place, while hiding behind the myth, 'will of the people', is a perversion of the intent behind both democracy and that of a referendum. In that regard, I am conscious of Nigel Farage's statement about how his movement would have regarded such a close referendum result, had the figures been reversed. I think the term was 'unfinished business'.

To allow the matter such easy progress so far has permitted the fascist movement to proceed unchecked and they are now using the kind of language employed in 1930s Germany while they ride roughshod over the remainder of the parliamentary channels.

I have to say that Clive Lewis gained a lot of respect from me over his decision yesterday to resign his Labour front bench position on a point of principle. Conversely, I was disgusted by the leader of the quisling party, Tim Farron, trying to make political capital out of the situation as leader of a party with no discernible policies on anything other than perhaps regaining a seat at the top table in another tory-driven coalition purely to prevent a Labour government. How quickly the public forgets!

Tom
Two posts in a row in which I agree with a lot of the content. Wherever will this end.

The most important point being that there needs to be a parliamentary opposition to BREXIT, even though I do support it. Corbyn need to sort himself out and quickly.
 

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The costs and complexity of such a system makes the alternatives much more likely though, here's some:

The simplest way, rail or overhead wires auto-attach system for picking up current trolley bus/tram fashion, cars with short range batteries to carry though gaps in the system.

The more sensible social solution, eliminate the questionable need for so much travelling, removing private cars from the planet.

Much more comprehensive coverage rail systems.
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Kindly desist from making sensible remarks, it really isn't done!

Been there, done that, are you trying to make a mortal enemy of every BMW/ Audi driver on the planet?
Shame on you... how can you go our and pose in a Trolley bus?
What kind of "Chick Magnet" is that?
 
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Two posts in a row in which I agree with a lot of the content. Wherever will this end.

The most important point being that there needs to be a parliamentary opposition to BREXIT, even though I do support it. Corbyn need to sort himself out and quickly.
Vote for me! I shall be the lone voice in the wilderness.!
 
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The most important point being that there needs to be a parliamentary opposition to BREXIT, even though I do support it.
Don't worry, the mainland EU leaders will step into the breach and provide opposition. They really don't want the UK to leave the union successfuly (out of fear of their own electorates) so will devise all sorts of ways to avoid our departure becoming a reality.
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The costs and complexity of such a system makes the alternatives much more likely though, here's some:

The simplest way, rail or overhead wires auto-attach system for picking up current trolley bus/tram fashion, cars with short range batteries to carry though gaps in the system.

The more sensible social solution, eliminate the questionable need for so much travelling, removing private cars from the planet.

Much more comprehensive coverage rail systems.
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Just need Stalin to impose it...the car has dominated 20th and 21st centuries for very reasons you dismiss...personal freedom.
And without the demand fir cars none of us would enjoy the lifestyles we currently do..They haven't simply provided transport, they also keep industry and commerce going both with the demand of buying them, industry making them, roads carrying them, insurance, petro chemical industries...its endless. Take the car away and the whole lot would come to a standstill..
Its the ultimate in idealism over realism to imagine we could even contemplate our society could survive without the personal car..in one form or another..
My money is on hydrogen fuel cells/ hydrogen powered. Current engines would require little change to run on hydrogen, pollutants are negligible, infrastructure is nearly already there, roads would need no change....
Ww have been killing off the ICE for 50 years now, it will never go...We have no alternative prime mover that can compete. IMHO electric vehicles are a diversion and will never replace ICE powered cars, except for extremely dense populated areas...
 
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KTM e-bikes sale
We are selling off last year's KTM e-bikes at a considerable discount to 2017 prices,in some cases this is 30% off the 2017 price level.
Some of the bikes are brand new,some are slightly shop soiled but all are in 100% working order.
Look on the Kudos cycles website for full listing,specs and prices.
A chance to beat the Brexit price rises.
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This is not a system that utilises a beam , but certainly you would only get a proportional charge base on time of engagement of the fields and that is where the charge in the Garage will come in.
this is how it works:



Does the green shape look like a beam to you?
The high efficiency comes from the beam. The coils act as collimators.
The amount of transfer of energy is proportional to the amount of magnetic flux. To make the application for a moving car, the car has to go over a delimited track, the coils will be laid along the track. A system will detect an approaching car, then fire the coil, then the next coil and so on. The danger is the coupling time at resonance is extremely short, maybe sub millisecond. Not very usable for moving cars otherwise many people would have tried.
 
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What if it is an economic success, or is that too bad to contemplate
I think success or failure largely depends upon May and Co negotiating skills and the attitude the EU has to us....so far its not looking too good is it?
As for opening up the rest of the world dont they realise that us traders already sell anywhere we can earn,would you put your money on Liam Fox?
KudosDave
 

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