Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

If you have finished reading today's propaganda from the tory media, you might want to have a look at one of the items concerning our 'glorious führer' described in a left-wing organ, 'The Canary'.

Here it is: http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/30/theresa-may-asked-resign-disgracing-britain-front-entire-world-video/

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Has an IQ of allegedly 156.
Billionaire.
Defeated the Republican Party.
Defeated te Democrat Party.

And remains an idiot, what exactly was your point?
If he is that intelligent why does he act like a fool?

If you want to demonstrate a high level intelligence
Avoid taking an intelligence test.
That way you may not be intelligent, but at least you won't have to lie about it and suffer an inferiority complex

And looking at the way Trump behaves you still can act like a dangerous lunatic and no one will know you aren't too simple to realise what you are doing.

And don't whatever you do blow your own trumpet and alienate people to the point where in a nation like America some nut job points a gun at you

Basically what Trump proves is being an imbecile makes you a dead cert when the voters are in a bad mood.
You don't need brains, just to be around at the right time.

They would have voted for Animal from the Muppets, and given the option either/or, Animal would get my vote too!

 

[flecc]

They would have voted for Animal from the Muppets, and given the option either/or, Animal would get my vote too!

Me too, at least Animal would get half the decisions right.
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[oldgroaner]

Has an IQ of allegedly 156.
Billionaire.
Defeated the Republican Party.
Defeated te Democrat Party.

And the odds are that he will shortly defeat himself in some spectacular way!

 

[oldgroaner]

Me too, at least Animal would get half the decisions right.
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And he's way cooler on the skins
Don't forget that!

 

[mike killay]

I am sure that most right wingers are only too happy to have the left seriously underestimate Trump.

 

[Zlatan]

Oh righty-ho so brexit is off then because of a meaningless majority?

Wasn't one a referendum the other mob rule...??Besides what about the nearly 60 million who didn't turn up...

Watched programme about English lad who,d tried to steal a policeman's firearm with intention of shooting Trump at one of his rallies..was a very sad case but with a ray of hope at end. I don't think Trump can quite be the ogre portrayed. Lad could have been sentenced to 20 years, they made allowance for his mental state both present and at time of crime..and sentenced him to 12 months and a day...he,ll be out and home in uk in 4 months.He was sentenced after Trump inaugurated, who must have had some involvement ?? Made me think again about American justice system. It was thought he,d get maximum ..was an excellent documentary..

Do all leavers read Daily Mail ? I didn't realise...is daily mail circulation big enough to supply us all, if it is I must try one and I,ll subscribe to Vox...then I,ll have either end of the spectrum for propoganda.

 

[oldgroaner]

I am sure that most right wingers are only too happy to have the left seriously underestimate Trump.

Do explain, no one is underestimating him at all, quite the contrary in fact, and you have conflated a high IQ as implying Wisdom naturally goes with one.

It really, really doesn't, as history proves time after time.
Some of the worst villains in history could not have wrought the havoc they did if they had a low IQ.

This man is in a position where he isn't simply too clever for his own good,
But for that of the entire world as well.

Dangerous to rely on the judgement of one who is as the Americans put it
"Flaky"
Hopefully one of those around him will fit a muzzle and a collar to him before he does serious harm.

 

[oldgroaner]

Wasn't one a referendum the other nearer mob rule...??Besides what about the nearly 60 million who didn't turn up...

Watched programme about English lad who,d tried to steal a policeman's firearm with intention of shooting Trump at one of his rallies..was a very sad case but with a ray of hope at end. I don't think Trump can quite be the ogre portrayed. Lad could have been sentenced to 20 years, they made allowance for his mental state both present and at time of crime..and sentenced him to 12 months and a day...he,ll be out and home in uk in 4 months.He was sentenced after Trump inaugurated, who must have had some involvement ?? Made me think again about American justice system. It was thought he,d get maximum ..was an excellent documentary..

Clearly the "lad" wasn't a muslim, was he? if he had been he would have been coming home in a coffin, you know that as well as I do.

 

[mike killay]

Do explain, no one is underestimating him at all, quite the contrary in fact, and you have conflated a high IQ as implying Wisdom naturally goes with one.
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Like most British people, you really do not know Trump.
I don't.
You are just relying on the now totally discredited rubbish published by the US left wing press.
They most certainly did underestimate him.

 

[flecc]

I am sure that most right wingers are only too happy to have the left seriously underestimate Trump.

I don't think anyone, left or right, underestimates how dangerous he could be. Most in his own republican party didn't want him as a president, and you'll see both Congress and Senate rein him in during his presidency.
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[flecc]

Like most British people, you really do not know Trump.

We know what he's said and what he intends. We also know much of his past behaviour, such as his utterly despicable tactics over his Scottish golf course.

These tell us what a horrible excuse for a human being he really is, and thats all we need to know.
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[Zlatan]

Clearly the "lad" wasn't a muslim, was he? if he had been he would have been coming home in a coffin, you know that as well as I do.

That's sheer speculation OG...hypothetical at best. At least see the good when its presented to you...It actually shocked me. I thought 20 years and lad would have committed suicide. Throughout he said he was intending to kill Trump because he thought him a racist.

 

[mike killay]

Time will tell.
The whole point about the US system is one of balances.
My guess is that things will soon be much the same as before except for a bit more emphasis on home affairs and less on foreign policy

 

[flecc]

Throughout he said he was intending to kill Trump because he thought him a racist.

True. If this case did have a political element, which is entirely possible in the American justice system, it's likely to have been not rocking the boat by provoking protest at this initial stage of new UK and US relations.
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[Zlatan]

Re IQ. Tests were for years biased towards certain classes, cultures and ways of thinking. Modern view of,IQ is ability to cope and thrive in the environment an individual inhabits.
Without a doubt Trump is intelligent, he,s certainly thrived in his environment, but then again so did Ghenkis Kane. Morality is another matter.
Doing the right thing could be completely opposed to the intelligent one.??? Trouble is at moment he appears to be doing neither.
(IMHO ofcourse)

 

[Zlatan]

True. If this case did have a political element, which is entirely possible in the American justice system, it's likely to have been not rocking the boat by provoking protest at this initial stage of new UK and US relations.
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Again speculation. Fact is lad is coming home. Trump could have insisted on harsh treatment to deter others. He,s certainly a target.
I,m not a Trump supporter, but credit where credit due.

 

[anotherkiwi]

You are just relying on the now totally discredited rubbish published by the US left wing press.

They have a left wing press in the US? Wonders will never cease!!!

I hope Trump will have a new book out soon "How I cheated during my IQ test", could come in handy if anyone ever has to take a test I mean...

 

[flecc]

Again speculation. Fact is lad is coming home. Trump could have insisted on harsh treatment to deter others. He,s certainly a target.
I,m not a Trump supporter, but credit where credit due.

And that is speculation, you have absolutely no idea whether Trump intervened in this case, so you cannot give credit.
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[Zlatan]

And that is speculation, you have absolutely no idea whether Trump intervened in this case, so you cannot give credit.
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Its not speculation he,s coming home. That's a,fact. Trump knew of case, he was 30 ft from incident. Its not speculation at all saying he could have intervened to enforce harsher punishment. Which is a fact. He could have. Saying he reduced tariff would be speculation.

I,m giving credit where its due, an underused concept on here. How you see it is your business, but no doubt will be the negative, which is the norm.