Not so, but you seem to have been taken in don't you? our observations are based on his actions, not press releases, and if you can't determine a con man from that, it's a bit of a shame!
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Credit has to be earned this guy isn't doing so.
The last thing he needed was to make a Martyr of a nut job right now, that's his motivation after the shambles of the inauguration.
If he had balls he would publish his Tax returns like all of his predecessors did:
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
But he won't so no balls and tiny, tiny hands.
News flash from the Whitehouse:
Drain the swamp! Done that. I have decided to build a cesspool. Lots of empty space after the swamp. So Huge Cesspool! You can see it from the ISS! Well you could. I'm cutting the budget for that now.
ad nauseum...
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
But he won't so no balls and tiny, tiny hands.
News flash from the Whitehouse:
Drain the swamp! Done that. I have decided to build a cesspool. Lots of empty space after the swamp. So Huge Cesspool! You can see it from the ISS! Well you could. I'm cutting the budget for that now.
ad nauseum...
You do realise he can't do that as it has to be assembled in space, not America!
Sometimes I wonder why you and I argue so much when so many of our thoughts agree!
The same goes for tillson, never mind it's all great fun!
By the way, since I admitted being mad, what excuse have the pair of you got?
Since he has a habit of claiming to have organised various things that he never did, why would he deny clemency if he had ordered it?
It would have been Twittered to Infinity and Beyond!
I didn't say it was. Why can't you read what is posted? Your speculation was that Trump in some way had influence on that.
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Seems like he has not conned anybody, unlike traditional politicians. He said what he would do when campaigning, and now he is doing what he said he would. Obama said he would close Guantanamo but he didn't. Whether you agree or not with his policies he was elected by the American electorate. I'm sure they will find a way to reign him in
Congress and the Senate will no doubt, but rein, not reign.
They wouldn't want him on a throne.
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I thought that looked wrongCongress and the Senate will no doubt, but rein, not reign.
They wouldn't want him on a throne.
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Not conned anybody? apart from claiming he had saved jobs that he had nothing to do with the man has a long standing track record of deceit
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
In the pre election presidential debates he made 37 false claims to the Clinton woman's 4!
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/20/donald-trump-made-37-false-claims-in-final-debate.html
Tell me what has led you to believe otherwise?
It wasn't clemency. Judge ordered psychiatric assessment and care during remainder of his imprisonment. You all could be right and it show no positives for Trump, but I was impressed by humane stance of judge ;lads defence and even the prosecution...I thought the whole process gave a good impression of law in states.
Even folk interviewed prior to incident were objective and fair, even the blokes who were devout Trump followers. There might be hope if nation were based on this case..
And aren't we being rather hypocritical , its not that long since that one of our most favourite ( prior to his war) PMs lied to us all, took us to war on a wild goose chase, got hundreds of service people killed,continued lying to this day and was probably involved in the debacle surrounding Dr Kelly.
We have short memories. Give Trump a chance..He,s blustering at moment, not very cleverly I admit but he hasn't killed anyone ..( yet ?)
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And troops under his command aren't out there killing people right now, just as some of ours aren't?
There is blood on his hands already, just as there is with our politicians, it's not long since Cameron was waging a private war behind parliament's back is it?
Tom quoted a Guardian article which shows how you can get blood on your hands doing what Trump just did
"In 1939, the German oceanliner St Louis and its 937 passengers, almost all Jewish refugees, were turned away from the port of Miami and sent back to Europe. Of those passengers, 254 were murdered in the Holocaust. The US government turned away those refugees, so heartbreakingly close to safety – and also restricted Jewish immigration and instituted new vetting procedures – because of rampant overblown fears that the Nazis might smuggle spies and saboteurs in among the Jewish refugees."
History has a habit of repeating itself, give him a chance if that takes your fancy.
Plus the fool condones torture and re-opening the Cuba Concentration Camp.
How much rope do you intend giving this man?
To be fair OG what you and I think about Trump is irrelevant...
Besides way its looking he might bot be in the Big White House all that long..
I,m not terribly impressed with nearly all American presidents...there are more bad than good..but deciding he,s a bad president after 4 days in job is a little premature..At least his bad points are on show ...
Here is a bit of fun for anyone daft enough to try it, I wonder if Trump had a go at this.
http://www.free-iqtest.net/what-is-iq.asp
To show you I can laugh at myself I tried it and found I have according the them an IQ of 122
Since I am widely believed to be barking mad, you should all do much better than that.
I have to admit rather worryingly it has dropped several points since I was a teenager.
I should have taken my own advice and avoided intelligence tests.
No doubt like Brexit the decline is liable to be progressive!
(Bearing that in mind I shall resist having another "Go" as the rate of decline may be logarithmic rather than linear)
http://www.free-iqtest.net/what-is-iq.asp
To show you I can laugh at myself I tried it and found I have according the them an IQ of 122
Since I am widely believed to be barking mad, you should all do much better than that.
I have to admit rather worryingly it has dropped several points since I was a teenager.
I should have taken my own advice and avoided intelligence tests.
No doubt like Brexit the decline is liable to be progressive!
(Bearing that in mind I shall resist having another "Go" as the rate of decline may be logarithmic rather than linear)
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One needs to keep an eye on the kind of people who flit around briefly occupying exceptionally high-paying positions in a kind of upper-crust, unmusical chairs.
Given how important it is to the tory party, the English aristocracy and the Greco-Germans pretending to be the rightful royal family, that they control absolutely the media in all its forms, it comes as no real surprise to learn of today's announcement about the new editor of Radio 4's 'Today' programme.
'The Canary' provides this insight and I'm grateful to that organ for providing a different view from the routine, 'Hoorah, what a jolly chap/filly - great pedigree!' kind of rubbish they invariably provide for the consumption of both the inbred aristos and the brainwashed simpletons.
Read about it here:
http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/30/bbcs-latest-appointment-proves-moved-bias-pure-propaganda-tweets/
Tom
Given how important it is to the tory party, the English aristocracy and the Greco-Germans pretending to be the rightful royal family, that they control absolutely the media in all its forms, it comes as no real surprise to learn of today's announcement about the new editor of Radio 4's 'Today' programme.
'The Canary' provides this insight and I'm grateful to that organ for providing a different view from the routine, 'Hoorah, what a jolly chap/filly - great pedigree!' kind of rubbish they invariably provide for the consumption of both the inbred aristos and the brainwashed simpletons.
Read about it here:
http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/30/bbcs-latest-appointment-proves-moved-bias-pure-propaganda-tweets/
Tom
Older readers will remember, as will others who have knowledge of modern history, that, just as a tory PM has visited the fascist, American president on his home soil and came away, optimistically braying about our special relationship and the promise of trade deals, a tory PM did a very similar thing back in 1938.
Prior to 1939, the British, tory government was very supportive of the German Nazi party, ignoring the warnings of one, Winston Churchill.
Today, the tory government is ignoring the same kind of warnings from one, Dennis Skinner.
Fascism doesn't change and there is no soft fascism or hard fascism but you can speak out against it or you can be an appeaser and apologist for it, much like Chamberlain and his parliamentary party of the late 1930s.
If history should repeat itself, you may find that there comes a time when it's too late and life-threatening to speak out. Remember the words of Martin Niemöller, which I won't repeat again.
Tom
Prior to 1939, the British, tory government was very supportive of the German Nazi party, ignoring the warnings of one, Winston Churchill.
Today, the tory government is ignoring the same kind of warnings from one, Dennis Skinner.
Fascism doesn't change and there is no soft fascism or hard fascism but you can speak out against it or you can be an appeaser and apologist for it, much like Chamberlain and his parliamentary party of the late 1930s.
If history should repeat itself, you may find that there comes a time when it's too late and life-threatening to speak out. Remember the words of Martin Niemöller, which I won't repeat again.
Tom
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