This is meant in jest...
But it let's you get away with everything else?
Come on give us a smile
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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They're in a trap. Labour MPs are almost entirely against leaving the EU, but know that the great majority of those who elected them are for leaving.
The Tory MPs, almost all in favour of remaining in the EU, have a more split electorate also balanced in favour of remaining. Therefore they should be the party deciding on not triggering Article 50, but because they initiated the referendum feel unable to.
Altogether a very silly situation.
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.......Don't work for me
I m a believer in the Homer Simpson rule .. if at first you don't succeed it was never meant to be...
From now on all my emoticon s will be stealthy.
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1. The court said, the government couldn't change the law based on the referendum, the law can only be changed by parliament. So that does mean that the referendum has no legal standing. The law can only be changed by parliament.
2. Yes the referendum showed a pretty much 50/50 split. So it goes back the MPs to make up their own mind. Even in the Conservative cabinent 70% of them were pro remain.
They are very interesting times indeed.
Do they vote with what they believe and what the experts are telling them, or go with the "will of the people" which can and will always change with time.
How odd, if you click at the end of the text and then on the emoticon symbol at the left of the lower upper menu bar, the available emoticons should appear at the bottom of your post, then all you have to do is click on one
Then hit "Post Reply"
Is this how you were doing it?
They should vote for what their conservative majority electorate wanted, since they won the general election. So since the clear majority of the conservative voting electorate wanted to remain and the MPs and cabinet want to as well, there is no problem, don't trigger article 50, scrapping Brexit.
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If they vote like last time, they will vote overwhelmingly for A50, in a way, a win for democracy.
The forthcoming white paper will show that the economic argument is not 100% one way.
Remainers like yourself have to wait a while, what goes around comes around, next time, it will be your turn to gloat.
D:OHow odd, if you click at the end of the text and then on the emoticon symbol at the left of the lower upper menu bar, the available emoticons should appear at the bottom of your post, then all you have to do is click on one
Then hit "Post Reply"
Is this how you were doing it?
I really don't want to be rude but you are posting increasingly nonsensical rubbish now. Clearly, you don't seem to appreciate that 27 other sovereign states understand that being members of such a large collective body with fantastic barrier-free trading and transparent democracy is a worthwhile thing.
It is only the British, or to be precise, the English & Welsh part of the UK which wants to divorce the country from the EU. Of course, there are some individuals in many of the other 27 states who share the view that they would prefer to be outside of the EU - that could be hundreds, thousands or even a few million of their populations - but they are not prepared to cut off their nose, as it were, to spite their face. They know which side their bread is buttered on and that is why they are not demonstrating in the streets of their capital cities screaming for what we call 'Brexit'.
Why do you quote Churchill? He was simply a figurehead the nation clung to through WW2 and wasn't much of a people's politician in peacetime. Perhaps you are one of those who thinks Britain needs to flex its military might and you while away your spare moments re-living old battles in which British military power was the cornerstone of our empire-building heritage? I'm afraid those days are long gone and Europe has been at peace by and large for probably the longest period in history. That is no accident; it is precisely because of the creation of what we now call the EU that this has been made possible. Perhaps you think we should take up arms again and re-colonise America? Yes, I know that's ridiculous but no more so than the stuff you are now posting.
If you want to know the source of all the things there are to dislike in the UK, look no further than this infographic. There is the reason why Britain has fallen so far and the Germans and French have become so prosperous:
Tom
I,m not making a u turn here, still believe UK would be better out of eu but I totally agree with Danidl's stand point.
Since vote was only 48/52 I also think parliament should have a free vote . For 3 reasons.
1) In interests of democratic process in uk.
2) I,ll bow to their superior knowledge of situation and let them decide. Its why they are there.
3) To shut remainers up. ( I,d put a smiley in but can't find one with an aggrieved enough face)
In interests of destroying divisions I would accept decision either way.
Can remainers do same ? I doubt it
Was interesting post supreme court decision. Government were civil, professional and to the point. Gina Niller rattled on and on with her propaganda and then some fool prattled on about getting better health care un France...seems remainers just love the limelight and want more power than an individuals voting power provides. Shout louder perhaps.
Since vote was only 48/52 I also think parliament should have a free vote . For 3 reasons.
1) In interests of democratic process in uk.
2) I,ll bow to their superior knowledge of situation and let them decide. Its why they are there.
3) To shut remainers up. ( I,d put a smiley in but can't find one with an aggrieved enough face)
In interests of destroying divisions I would accept decision either way.
Can remainers do same ? I doubt it
Was interesting post supreme court decision. Government were civil, professional and to the point. Gina Niller rattled on and on with her propaganda and then some fool prattled on about getting better health care un France...seems remainers just love the limelight and want more power than an individuals voting power provides. Shout louder perhaps.
Here is another example of the kind of behaviour exhibited by the 'Brexidiot' fascists in our midst. No doubt it will be treated in much the same way by the 'Leave' supporters as the murder of Jo Cox MP. This is typical fascist behaviour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38744073
Tom
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38744073
Tom
Let's leave the insults aside, oldtom.
The point is, it's non-sensical to treat half of the UK as brexitidiots to borrow your terminology. It has to stop if you want to convince a minimum of 10% brexit voters to change their mind.
That was because they knew in advance that they would lose the case so were prepared to make the resigned statement. As I posted before the Supreme Court decision, the court had absolutely no choice but to find as it did.
In taking the case to the court, the government weren't hoping for miracles, they were just hoping to convince the public that they had some right on their side. They didn't have of course, they had no case at all.
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I wonder whether Theresa May is still a Remainer but is stuck now in going for hard Brexit,she is paranoid about controlling immigration and knows that to do so we have to exit the single market and customs union.
She ignores completely all the bad news from big employers such that nothing else matters except controlling immigration...I wonder what would happen if the boss of Nissan came out and said he is closing the Sunderland plant,I feel she will accept that as collateral damage.
There are some in the EU who are making noises that immigration control should be an EU decision and some mechanism introduced to achieve some degree of control.
Theresa May must be under considerable stress,she is a bright lady who must know that hard Brexit can only end in economic suicide but how does she get off this voyage to disaster and still keep her PM job....that is her dilemma.
KudosDave
She ignores completely all the bad news from big employers such that nothing else matters except controlling immigration...I wonder what would happen if the boss of Nissan came out and said he is closing the Sunderland plant,I feel she will accept that as collateral damage.
There are some in the EU who are making noises that immigration control should be an EU decision and some mechanism introduced to achieve some degree of control.
Theresa May must be under considerable stress,she is a bright lady who must know that hard Brexit can only end in economic suicide but how does she get off this voyage to disaster and still keep her PM job....that is her dilemma.
KudosDave
Did indeed, my vocabulary is larger than my literacyPerhaps you meant 'opprobrium' rather than approbation 'Danidl'?
Tom