I think you are being unfair.
First of all, Zlatan has not attached himself to me. It just so happens that some of our views regarding BREXIT coincide. Just like some of your views coincide with those of old tom, kudos bloke, ktm man, flecc and others. You haven't attached yourselves to each other and neither have we. The idea is ridiculous.
I'm affraid that Zlatan is also correct regarding the insults levelled at those who support BREXIT. In some instances there have been direct insults and accusations of racism. Granted that on this forum these words mainly originate from old tom, and I will further concede that he is an arse-hole, thus mitigating the affect, but the overall sentiment is still present.
On top of this, there exists an unpleasant and generally sneering attitude towards BREXIT. A desire to portray supporters as being poorly educated, low paid, unskilled, racist, xenophobic, of low mental capacity, gullible, Daily Mail readers, thugs and so on. In other words, if it's something that people would not like to consider themselves as being, then it's BREXIT. And I think Zlatan is spot on, remain has totally and foolishly underestimated the BREXIT opposition both before and after the referendum. Many people have genuine concerns about our EU membership and instead of trying to engage with them and identifying with their concerns, remain have tried to insult them into submission. And that has back-fired in the most spectacular fashion imaginable.
The only attitudes which stand a chance of engaging with people are primarily the approach adopted by flecc and occasionally OG (when he isn't copy / paste the newspapers).
I strongly disagree with the idea of a second referendum, but if one was held, I believe that BREXIT would win again, but with a greater majority. And I also believe that if there is a cost to BREXIT, people will accept that cost as a price worth paying.
Lets look at some of those points shall we
"remain has totally and foolishly underestimated the BREXIT opposition both before and after the referendum."
Well you can't accuse me personally of that, can you?
"On top of this, there exists an unpleasant and generally sneering attitude towards BREXIT. A desire to portray supporters as being poorly educated, low paid, unskilled, racist, xenophobic, of low mental capacity, gullible, Daily Mail readers, thugs and so on. In other words, if it's something that people would not like to consider themselves as being, then it's BREXIT."
Most of that has been greatly exaggerated for effect by the right wing press and you know it, and let's be honest voting for a huge political change on nothing more than hopes and promises hardly invites favourable comments, now does it?
And you are conveniently forgetting the continuous Bile directed against "Remoaners" etc that covers the front pages of the Express and Daily Mail on a Daily basis, for which there is no equally vicious contrary opinion from the opposition in other newspapers, only very mild ripostes in the Guardian and Independent, which lack the spectacular level of lies being plied in the right wing press.
Even the main proponents of Brexit exited stage left at the first opportunity so as to avoid any blame attaching itself to them.
As a protest against the establishment it has failed utterly, as now all power to repeal beneficial legislation on the Environment ,employment, benefits and pretty much everything else that had caused public distress is even more powerfully gripped by the very people that have caused dissent in the public for a generation, but escaped the consequences by blaming the EU.
And then this
"And I also believe that if there is a cost to BREXIT, people will accept that cost as a price worth paying"
Will YOU accept this cost? what about the people who can't afford to?
pretty thoughtless to take that attitude " I'm alright Jack"
Brexit will prove to be the Biggest "Own Goal" in British History.
