Well it was written on the 11th of May 2016 and clearly these people didn't know what was going on did they?
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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are you trying to tell us something?I belong to two historic/vintage car clubs, one where Brexit is not discussed, the other where it is in a gentlemanlymanner, and this one where I come for a laugh.
As you admit., we are not liable for bailout costs since we are not eurozone members.
And how do arrive at "we might be in future"? Obviously in the knowledge of the eurozone debts we would never sign up to liablity, and could only do so if we adopted the euro first. Do you really think we'd do that?
No Zlatan, it is very simple exactly as I said, once you see Victor Hill's "could" as what it is rather than what you'd like it to be. My copy and paste was the subsequent rebuttal of Hill's nonsense, published a month later.
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All he knows is what he said, a hard exit presents opportunities, whilst admitting that it would be very challenging.
We all know that and don't need Mervyn King to tell us the obvious.
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As in the old saying
"There are no such things as Challenges, only opportunities,
but the number of Opportunities
is becoming a Challenge?
And of course the obvious question is Who are they opportunities for?
There are of course an "Opportunity " for a Thug comitting a Mugging,
And needless to say a "Challenge" for the victim
if you apply Brexit logic.
As to "overnight King knows nothing " he missed off a few words like "that proved accurate"
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So you discount him and listen to Osborne, who is now changing his mind...
On the eurozone...you know full well flecc its extremely unlikely any eu states could remain out of euro after 2020. Its well accepted for eu to work fiscally member states will have to be part of euro zone. ( Massive Telegraph report arguing pros and cons)
We both know if we stay and if euro remains past around 2020 we will adopt euro. Fact is remainers dont like admitting the fact.
Come on Flecc you know that we will be hit by a meteor causing an extinction event (if you are prepared to wait) the same logic applies.
We do need such as King, its simply he is not saying what you agree with. Then again nether was Hargreaves or Minford or Hill...so we don't nerd them either. Just the ones agreeing with flecc perhaps ?
What difference will it make, and who cares anyway? we are leaving the EU or haven't you figured that out yet?
By this time next year there is no guarantee the pound won't be less that a Euro is there?
Glory be, this is the rubbish that Minford comes out with
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Professor Minford:-
"It is perfectly true that if you remove protection of the sort that has been given in the [UK] car industry and other manufacturing industries inside the protection wall, you will have a change in the situation facing that industry, and you are going to have to run it down. It will be in your interests to do it, just the same as we ran down the coal and steel industries".
Professor Patrick Minford, oral evidence to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, 11 September 2012
“Over time, if we left the EU, it seems likely that we would mostly eliminate manufacturing, leaving only industries such as design, marketing and hi-tech. But this shouldn’t scare us’
Patrick Minford, The Sun, 15 March"
Minford isn't anything more than an unstable individual with dangerous antisocial ideas
The third Italian bank holds a lot of bad debt from the US speculation bubble crisis and Italy is on the border of bankruptcy and the UK is right to get out of the EU so it won't have to pay for that? What parallel universe do you come from?
The Italian banking crisis is going to cost the Italians a lot but it doesn't have anything to do with the EU or the euro. Just banks being greedy and getting in trouble on Wall Street. The Italian government has to intervene to save the bank so that the little guys who have accounts don't get robbed of their savings. Will bankers go to prison for behaving badly and breaking laws?
The Italian banking crisis is going to cost the Italians a lot but it doesn't have anything to do with the EU or the euro. Just banks being greedy and getting in trouble on Wall Street. The Italian government has to intervene to save the bank so that the little guys who have accounts don't get robbed of their savings. Will bankers go to prison for behaving badly and breaking laws?
Old Groaner , yes I agree ,it is mostly in perfect taste.
The subject is a cause of vexation for both leavers and remainers.
I voted remain, but we have a democratic decision and must all now work for what is best for the UK.
The EU is unstable ,and could dissolve into disparate factions.
The UK government are already talking to potentially large international business partners,and I truly hope it should end up to our advantage.
The subject is a cause of vexation for both leavers and remainers.
I voted remain, but we have a democratic decision and must all now work for what is best for the UK.
The EU is unstable ,and could dissolve into disparate factions.
The UK government are already talking to potentially large international business partners,and I truly hope it should end up to our advantage.
More nonsense, I've said nothing about listening to Osbourne and wouldn't take an notice of him anyway.
Not so. Faced with adopting the euro against our wish we would merely take another more detached membership option. The EU already has many membership models and you have no idea how many more there might be in future.
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Do you really lack the ability to read? I didn't disagree with King, I agree with him, merely pointing out that what he said was obvious so I didn't need him to tell me the obvious that I already knew.
i.e. That a hard exit presents opportunities.
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There is no "u" in Osborne flecc. You have said almost some things as Osborne, just coincidence then? Whatever information we build our opinions on its derived from somewhere. Somehow remainers, who I put you amongst, seem to think the origin of their information is somehow more valid than leavers. All are liable to corruption. ( Including Google and Bing) If you dont agree with Osborne (or King,Minford,Hargreaves) exactly who do you agree with ? You either want to leave ( Hargreaves) or stay (epitomised by Osborne) Cant have it both ways flecc. Soft brexit will destroy country.
You cant possibly know what eu / eurozone will look like in 10 years time. Read the reports flecc...they are all available. ( fiscal transfer across regions/ eu and otherwise)
Its got to happen at some point if we remain. Fact. You are trying to have your cake and eat it. If we stay we will undoubtedly adopt euro...eventually.
Fact is King is saying positive things about Brexit which you always find reasons to dismiss. ( Remember you did same with Minford and Hargreaves)
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I've no idea what Osborne has said, so how can it influence me?
I toild you a long time ago what my opinions on this issue are based on, and in no way are they formed by any of the commentators you mention. That's because I don't and won't read and absorb what they have to say.
Your mistake is that you do read them and are so obviously influenced by their opinions.
My opinions on this issue really are entirely my own since they are based on actual events that I've witnessed at first hand.
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