Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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Never work for a company with a Human Resources Department. A Personnel Department is OK, but never Human Resources.
Sadly that was a lost battle many years ago, HR is in so many businesses now that it cannot be avoided by anyone early in their career.
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Croxden

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My wish is that in Britain, as in some other countries, we used the title 'Engineer' instead of Mr.
Many doctors do not have doctorates, yet a PhD engineer is plain Mr.
Just another form of snobbery.
 

anotherkiwi

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Just a quick post to bump this back up to the top of unread :p

I know what a jammy...
 

oldgroaner

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Just another form of snobbery.
Not if it comes with a Salary Increase, bigger office and more respect, surely?
Beats being the "Fan Cleaner" by a mile! :D
We do have a tendency to be forgotten till something goes wrong and someone panics and "Rubs the Lamp"
(and usually by that time it's too late and they want more than just three wishes):oops:
 

Croxden

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Not if it comes with a Salary Increase, bigger office and more respect, surely?
Beats being the "Fan Cleaner" by a mile! :D
We do have a tendency to be forgotten till something goes wrong and someone panics and "Rubs the Lamp"
(and usually by that time it's too late and they want more than just three wishes):oops:
I'm not knocking engineers just the fancy titles some want. Reminds me of the cast system of old India.
 

trex

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getting back to the main subject, The Independent has put the estimated cost of hiring extra staff and consultants to assist the 3 brexiteers at £5 billions. It will take 8 years to get out of the EU completely (if it happens at all, with all the legal challenges still to be heard in Court).

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-article-50-leaving-eu-wont-happen-after-2017-european-elections-france-germany-a7198736.html

Now Fox is discovering that it is illegal under World Trade Organisation rules to start negotiations with the UK as the EU has sole and exclusive responsibility for speaking for its member states on major trade matters.
 

oldgroaner

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I'm not knocking engineers just the fancy titles some want. Reminds me of the cast system of old India.
I have to plead Guilty then, referring to myself as "Fan Cleaner" when it only said "Special Projects Engineer" on my business cards.
Ideas above my station perhaps?:rolleyes:
 
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oldgroaner

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getting back to the main subject, The Independent has put the estimated cost of hiring extra staff and consultants to assist the 3 brexiteers at £5 billions. It will take 8 years to get out of the EU completely (if it happens at all, with all the legal challenges still to be heard in Court).

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-article-50-leaving-eu-wont-happen-after-2017-european-elections-france-germany-a7198736.html
Not good, more expense for no return, just trigger article 50 right now and ride the waves, for the end result will be the same.
Quite obviously the Government has no intention of a clean Break with the EU, it just wants to create a convincing and saleable fudge to con the voters with.
The experiment was promised, even though it was not something Cameron had the legal power to enact, and he refused to deliver.
Now lets get it under way.
And it will very likely prove to cost less anyway in the long run.
 
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oldgroaner

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The thought of Johnson, Fox and Davis being let loose on handling the Brexit problem is probably an even bigger mistake than the way the referendum went in the first place.
It's like watching Larry, Mitch and Mo of the Three Stooges.
They used violence on each other as part of their comedy routines, and so do these three clowns.
Tell me this is not the best that we can do, and that someone with at least half a brain will actually be in charge.
You might just as well have give Nigel Farage the job.
 
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trex

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it's kinda ironic that we place the result of the referendum over and above parliament. Result: three of the most economically challenged MPs get given the job of shaping our future.
 

Croxden

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The thought of Johnson, Fox and Davis being let loose on handling the Brexit problem is probably an even bigger mistake than the way the referendum went in the first place.
It's like watching Larry, Mitch and Mo of the Three Stooges.
They used violence on each other as part of their comedy routines, and so do these three clowns.
Tell me this is not the best that we can do, and that someone with at least half a brain will actually be in charge.
You might just as well have give Nigel Farage the job.
I thought it was Curly, Larry & Mo?
 

oldgroaner

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I was just wondering: what are our MEPS doing now, and why aren't they dealing with the Brexit negotiations?
After all that surely is the sort of Remit that comes with the job title?
Why are they excluded from the process?

Farage after all wanted to be the negotiator, and it's about time he did something useful for a change (and as a benefit it would spike any ideas the UKIP have of being a power in the land if he drops the ball)

Move him in with Boris and drop the other two clowns would be my recommendation.
 

mike killay

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it's kinda ironic that we place the result of the referendum over and above parliament. Result: three of the most economically challenged MPs get given the job of shaping our future.
I feel a sense of utter horror that you could even say that.
Are you a fascist?
Don't you believe in the manifest will of the people?
Do you hate democracy?
Do you think that the people should be in thrall to those who 'Know better?'
Shame on you.
 

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