You may find this historical BBC article of interest
Regarding Rupert Murdoch and John Major over Europe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18405629
Regarding Rupert Murdoch and John Major over Europe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18405629
Brexit, for once some facts.
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... This shambles for once cannot be laid on as a fault of Westminster. It belongs solely to the group on both sides in stormont. More time spent debating the rights and wrongs of spending \ wasting money on two minority dead languages, and where and when flags fly is less time spent on productive legalisation.
I see the Murdoch Sun is still trying to suppress the right to criticise Brexit
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PEER'S NAZI SLUR
Government adviser says Brexit is the biggest mistake since failing to stop Hitler’s rise to power
Andrew Adonis is likely to face calls to resign over his inflammatory comments
Why should that be the case? who authorised the press to morally judge this man?
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PEER'S NAZI SLUR
Government adviser says Brexit is the biggest mistake since failing to stop Hitler’s rise to power
Andrew Adonis is likely to face calls to resign over his inflammatory comments
Why should that be the case? who authorised the press to morally judge this man?
From the Independent
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Scotland and Wales to withhold legislative consent from Theresa May's Brexit Repeal Bill, first ministers say
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones issued a joint statement condemning the plans
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones said the bill was a “naked power grab” by Westminster because it did not immediately return powers to the devolved administrations after taking them from the EU."
Now, hands up those that believe this is a naked power grab
Now hands up those who think the Government never for a moment saw that coming?
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Scotland and Wales to withhold legislative consent from Theresa May's Brexit Repeal Bill, first ministers say
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones issued a joint statement condemning the plans
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones said the bill was a “naked power grab” by Westminster because it did not immediately return powers to the devolved administrations after taking them from the EU."
Now, hands up those that believe this is a naked power grab
Now hands up those who think the Government never for a moment saw that coming?
What is coming is shown by May's attitude to Euratom,the nuclear agency.
This hasn't got anything to do with Brexit and we could stay in the agency except the governing body is the ECJ and May has a hatred of that court going back to her Home Secretary days,so she has said we are leaving,despite it being very disruptive to hospital isotope supply.
This is the future,anything covered by the ECJ and May won't have any of it,which is why negotiations with the EU won't get anywhere,unless she is prepared to compromise....this is the major reason why Davis cannot agree the EU in UK citizenship rights.
What is Coybyns attitude to the ECJ?
KudosDave
This hasn't got anything to do with Brexit and we could stay in the agency except the governing body is the ECJ and May has a hatred of that court going back to her Home Secretary days,so she has said we are leaving,despite it being very disruptive to hospital isotope supply.
This is the future,anything covered by the ECJ and May won't have any of it,which is why negotiations with the EU won't get anywhere,unless she is prepared to compromise....this is the major reason why Davis cannot agree the EU in UK citizenship rights.
What is Coybyns attitude to the ECJ?
KudosDave
brexit is not one minefield but two.
Corbyn knows that any deal with the EU will be 90% sure to nominate the ECJ as the arbiter.
Corbyn will keep his mouth shut as long as he can..
Words are important in many ways and this 'tweet' is an example of how the news media in particular utilise their journalistic skill & licence to convey a message:
Tom
Tom
Is there anyone left on this forum who still thinks Brexit is a good idea?
Even if it was a good idea it is obvious to all,remainer or leaver,that this government does not have the ability to complete Brexit in any form,a good Brexit is now impossible.
If Brexit was a war we would be negotiating for peace.
The EU have exposed what a disorganised bunch this lot are....the worry is that we need them to sort out the NHS,social care,education,the deficit,are they capable of any government?
KudosDave
Even if it was a good idea it is obvious to all,remainer or leaver,that this government does not have the ability to complete Brexit in any form,a good Brexit is now impossible.
If Brexit was a war we would be negotiating for peace.
The EU have exposed what a disorganised bunch this lot are....the worry is that we need them to sort out the NHS,social care,education,the deficit,are they capable of any government?
KudosDave
Well now! from the Torygraph this morning
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ExclusiveConservative MPs in talks with Labour about signing UK up to free movement after Brexit"
Brexit? does anyone remember that?
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ExclusiveConservative MPs in talks with Labour about signing UK up to free movement after Brexit"
Brexit? does anyone remember that?
The Tory's "Lord Charles" clone is at it again
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Corbyn's EU interference could WRECK Brexit deal... and save us BILLIONS, says Rees-Mogg
EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon’s visit to Brussels today is pointless as they will have no influence over Brexit negotiations, Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said."
Very droll!
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Corbyn's EU interference could WRECK Brexit deal... and save us BILLIONS, says Rees-Mogg
EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon’s visit to Brussels today is pointless as they will have no influence over Brexit negotiations, Tory MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said."
Very droll!
yes, me. At least at this time.
We have never bought into the idea of ever closer union. That's where the EU has been going for sometime.
Scotland and Wales to withhold legislative consent from Theresa May's Brexit Repeal Bill, first ministers say
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones issued a joint statement condemning the plans
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones said the bill was a “naked power grab” by Westminster because it did not immediately return powers to the devolved administrations after taking them from the EU."
Now, hands up those that believe this is a naked power grab
Now hands up those who think the Government never for a moment saw that coming?
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones issued a joint statement condemning the plans
Nicola Sturgeon and Carwyn Jones said the bill was a “naked power grab” by Westminster because it did not immediately return powers to the devolved administrations after taking them from the EU."
Now, hands up those that believe this is a naked power grab
Now hands up those who think the Government never for a moment saw that coming?
For your information some of us DO buy into the idea of an EU superstate and regard it as the obvious future, why would anyone NOT want this to happen?
What possible reasons could there be? it is inevitable, and now we are going to be robbed of our place in it for a while.
This is what Theresa May spent one billion pounds or more of British taxpayers' money on to keep herself and her rotten party in office. That's £1 billion to the DUP, the party that represents the most bigoted miscreants in Ireland to the severe detriment of the nationalist population. This cannot be right and seems to me an abuse of political spending. If it happened before an election, it would be an offence.
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Tom
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Tom
Not content with supporting the political wing of the Ulster protestant terrorist groups, May's government has refused to publish a report into the funding of terrorism in Britain:
The mainstream media don't seem to want the public to be aware of this kind of hypocrisy.
Tom
The mainstream media don't seem to want the public to be aware of this kind of hypocrisy.
Tom
It seems that the Samsung company doesn't believe London provides the kind of future they want to invest in, so Berlin it is!
Are they wrong? I don't know but it is a little worrying.
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Tom
Are they wrong? I don't know but it is a little worrying.
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Tom
The majority who voted don't.
It appears the EU has not understood the vote either.
Their latest "position" documents confirm this.
A polite "no thank you" from Mr Davis should make them more aware.
Hard Brexit here we come!
Terrific! the sooner it comes the sooner the people will learn the seriousness of their mistake in supporting Brexit
I believe the expression is "Bring it on!"
Out of curiosity just what are you expecting to come out of it that isn't a complete disaster?
Odd that you have never actually outlined what that is, care to try?
Or don't you know?
And what have you got against the idea of a United States of Europe? do you know, or is it a feeling?
Add this to that, wouldn't we be better off inside it and having influence than standing back helpless while it happens?
Brexiters continue to amaze me.
What is it that they want? or is it case that they don't actually know?
Can someone please articulate a logical case for Brexit that doesn't read like religious Dogma?
Where is the promised land to come?
let's Face it, but for Lies Brexit would never have happened would it?
And lies still sustain it
For the moment
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