Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

I shared that sentiment too but then when I considered how the 'Brexit' fanboys in the UK revere the likes of Farage, Johnson, Gove, Carswell, Nuttall and their ilk, I began to understand.

It then occurred to me that if I began spouting lies like 'There are no racists in UKIP or the Conservative party' for example, or that, 'Nigel Farage and his fellow 'Brexit' architects deserve the highest civilian honour for their bravery and honesty with the British people!' I do believe that I would be worshipped up and down the country and probably in line to replace Nuttall.

Although Trump remains President for the moment, according to my American friends, his popularity has waned considerably and many Americans are very worried and wonder about what he is going to do next.

The realisation that their 'protest vote' against the American political establishment has gone horribly wrong is starting to dawn on people. Now, doesn't that sound rather familiar!

Tom

E're guv s'too complicated gizza clue wot yer mean!
Are you casting Nasturtiums on Holy Brexit AGAIN?
Yours Bigly etc

 

[Woosh]

As in the good news is that the air bags worked, Dad?

I missed the joke here. What do airbags have to do with Trump?

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

No, as you said, it's public information and I don't stop you to find out but I don't help you either. I have gone as far as I am willing to.

What have you got to hide? I'm completely lost by your lack of willing to defend your own statement. You continue to claim you fact check your posts, but you won't even defend your own statements.

 

[oldtom]

E're guv s'too complicated gizza clue wot yer mean!
Are you casting Nasturtiums on Holy Brexit AGAIN?
Yours Bigly etc

That's exactly my point! I just wish I had your way with words you smooth talker you.

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Hmmm, scaremondering wasn't it.

Oh no wait, its actually happening, and we've not even left yet.

http://news.sky.com/story/firms-start-to-act-in-self-defence-as-brexit-looms-bcc-survey-10784602

Halleluya! A Miracle indeed
For the First time in History a Sinking ship is abandoning the Rats!

And who can blame it, Remember, Brittania Waives the Rules
The goodness is indeed flowing (better send for a plumber)

 

[Woosh]

What have you got to hide? I'm completely lost by your lack of willing to defend your own statement. You continue to claim you fact check your posts, but you won't even defend your own statements.

Why should I defend my statements to the death? You form a view on them as you see fit.

 

[shemozzle999]

What have you got to hide? I'm completely lost by your lack of willing to defend your own statement. You continue to claim you fact check your posts, but you won't even defend your own statements.

Nothing to hide as Woosh said:

http://www.ideasinmotionsouthend.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Case_Study-ebikes.pdf

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

and Woosh... the cliff you talk about not existing isn't just about trade.

The cliff is made up of many many many small drops that all combine to form the cliff.

This for example.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/students-applying-to-study-in-uk-drop-20-since-brexit-vote-1.2989836

In towns like Huddersfield where the Uni is a vital part of the growth in the town.

 

[Woosh]

@KTM Bike Industries UK

The bike in the picture is the Woosh Sirocco. The bike I submitted is the Woosh Sundowner.

 

[oldgroaner]

That's exactly my point! I just wish I had your way with words you smooth talker you.

Tom

It's a Gift
Some of us are born to Greatness
some just to Grate on others.

 

[Woosh]

Nothing to hide as Woosh said:

http://www.ideasinmotionsouthend.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Case_Study-ebikes.pdf

You are indeed a search specialist.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

Nothing to hide as Woosh said:

http://www.ideasinmotionsouthend.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Case_Study-ebikes.pdf

yes, now I know it was 5 years ago, its a simple find. The information itself is relatively interesting.... the fact that Woosh feel they need to hide it was very interesting.

 

[oldtom]

All sounds good doesn't it.

Will of the people Sir!......not to mention, 'We won; you lost- get over it!'.....or 'Brexit means Brexit'.

So, that being the case, let's get on with the plan......oh, hang on!

Tom

 

[oldtom]

I missed the joke here. What do airbags have to do with Trump?

I saw the humour but airbag has nothing specifically to do with Trump who is, in fact, a 'windbag'.

Tom

 

[Woosh]

the fact that Woosh feel they need to hide it was very interesting.

I did not hide anything. You failed to dig it up.

 

[Woosh]

The cliff is made up of many many many small drops that all combine to form the cliff.

Huh? cliff is formed by small drops? Not by erosion?*
Did you teach your pupils that fact?

*in the brexit case, is it not that cliff edge is formed by propaganda?

 

[oldgroaner]

I saw the humour but airbag has nothing specifically to do with Trump who is, in fact, a 'windbag'.

Tom

Well spotted[emoji1]

Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk

 

[flecc]

The cliff is made up of many many many small drops that all combine to form the cliff.

Also known as a staircase.

Shall we settle for that, since falling down a staircase can be rather painful too?
.

 

[oldtom]

There are strong parallels between what is happening in Antartica and the current headlong rush to blindly leap off a cliff, aka 'Brexit'.

You can read the facts about it here:

http://newsthump.com/2017/01/06/iceberg-insists-it-can-thrive-on-its-own-after-winning-referendum-to-leave-antarctica/

Tom

 

[Danidl]

there is and has always been a degree of bullying and intimidation but I think a lot of MPs changed their mind too, not just their stance. It sounds more principled to say that they respect the will of the people that they have simply changed side.
The fact remains that about 400 constituencies voted for brexit, brexit does from that angle represent the will of the people, at the very least, in England.


I don't think bridges are burnt.
The Daily Mail and the Express do not represent the view of the majority. For example, most people accept immigration, they only want it controlled to much greater extent than now.

In respect of point 1 listed above,I can accept that some MP may have genuinely changed their minds or were originally commited to the brexit concept, and now believe that Brexit is in the long term interests of the UK, Europe and the EU, to lesser or greater extents and I am prepared to accept that others genuinely believe that they are there to solely to represent their constituents and not to have views of their own, .I find it hard to accept that these were majority positions.
In respect to point 2, about burning bridges, the incedenary comments of your PM stating that the UK would undercut Europe unless she got her way , amplified by the comments attributed to IDS, a previous leader about millions of Romanians, and the crass new guidelines by your home office immigration service, demanding that legitimate EU citizens ,without private health insurance be deported... Need i say more.