Brexit, for once some facts.

Woosh

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On the face of it that seems like a simple reaction from a disappointed youth faced with a difficult job finding situation, however it could also be a pre arranged UKIP stunt to affect the local by elections
There are about 600,000 young people between the age of 16-24 currently unemployed. His story is believable.
 

tillson

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Surveys, surveys.


But don't tell the Brexit Fans the last thing they ever want is chance for the Voters to think again!

Ha ha ha. Surveys! Tell me, was this survey conducted by the same people who predicted a win for Remain prior to the referendum? Or perhaps they are the ones who predicted the Labour victory at the last general election? Whichever one it was, you need not concern yourself, because like those which have gone before it, this one is also manifestly inaccurate.

My advice is to put this latest survey to good use as lavatory paper because, as history tell us, it has no other legitimate purpose.

You might make more headway by joining the ranks of the Blair Fanboys, rather than re-publishing information from a comprehensively failed and discredited source. (Was this chart from Old Tom's Budgerigar lefty news thingy ?)
 
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oldgroaner

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Ha ha ha. Surveys! Tell me, was this survey conducted by the same people who predicted a win for Remain prior to the referendum? Or perhaps they are the ones who predicted the Labour victory at the last general election? Whichever one it was, you need not concern yourself, because like those which have gone before it, this one is also manifestly inaccurate.

My advice is to put this latest survey to good use as lavatory paper because, as history tell us, it has no other legitimate purpose.

You might make more headway by joining the ranks of the Blair Fanboys, rather than re-publishing information from a comprehensively failed and discredited source. (Was this chart from Old Tom's Budgerigar lefty news thingy ?)
I realise that like Trump anything that doesn't fit within your limited point of view will be scorned and ridiculed, but that is expected when you insist of wearing those Brexit Goggles.
Why should this particular SURVEY note, not Poll be wrong just because it doesn't suit you?
And let me remind you : you didn't have the foresight to predict a victory for the leave campaign did you?
Why should you be any wiser now than you were then?
 
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The Guardian
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Thousands of doctors trained in Europe 'may quit UK after Brexit'
BMA warns of impending ‘disaster’ as its research shows 40% of doctors who qualified in EEA may leave because they feel less welcome
About 12,000 doctors trained in European countries could quit the UK because they feel less welcome following the Brexit vote, according to a survey of overseas medics.

About two in five doctors who qualified in European Economic Area countries are considering leaving the UK in light of the referendum result, research by the British Medical Association reveals.

The findings prompted alarm about an impending “disaster” in medical staffing and fears that an exodus of EEA doctors could exacerbate already significant personnel shortages in NHS hospitals.

The BMA’s findings are based on a survey it undertook of 1,193 EEA doctors working in the UK. When asked if they were thinking about leaving the UK following last year’s referendum vote, 500 (42%) said yes, 309 (26%) said no, 278 (23%) were unsure, while the other 106 did not answer.

“These are the people who staff our hospitals and GP surgeries, look after vulnerable patients in the community, and conduct vital medical research to help save lives. Many have dedicated years of service to healthcare in the UK, so it’s extremely concerning that so many are considering leaving,” said Dr Mark Porter, the BMA’s council chair.

“At a time when the NHS is already at breaking point and facing crippling staff shortages, this would be a disaster and threaten the delivery of high-quality patient care. But this isn’t just about numbers. The quality of patient care is improved where doctors have diverse experiences and expertise,” he added.

The EEA includes the 28 members of the European Union plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein.

Figures from the General Medical Council, which regulates the medical profession, show that there are 280,932 doctors on the medical register. Of those, 177,912 (63%) were trained in the UK, 30,733 (11%) qualified in another EEA country and 72,287 (26%) are from elsewhere in the world.
 
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tillson

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Western women wear bikinis and less on beaches and nightclubs, it is the cultural norm, would it have been appropriate for that meeting?
Western women, particularly British women, wear this type of clothing for a very good reason. Rather than studying and improving themselves in order to become more employable, they dress like this in the hope that they are discovered by Simon Cowell and his X Factor. Sadly, they are usually discovered by a horrified dog walker instead.
 

tillson

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I realise that like Trump anything that doesn't fit within your limited point of view will be scorned and ridiculed, but that is expected when you insist of wearing those Brexit Goggles.
Why should this particular SURVEY note, not Poll be wrong just because it doesn't suit you?
And let me remind you : you didn't have the foresight to predict a victory for the leave campaign did you?
Why should you be any wiser now than you were then?
I didn't predict a BREXIT victory, I predicted the opposite. That is why I stay away from polls / surveys of this nature. History tell us that they are of no use whatsoever. You should do the same.
 
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And the people trust TM to protect our boders
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Theresa May accused of letting Isis suicide bomber Jamal al-Harith slip through the net
Former home secretaries blame PM for lack of surveillance on Briton freed from Guantanamo
Theresa May’s record as Home Secretary has been thrown into doubt over claims she weakened surveillance on an extremist who fled the country to become an Isis fighter and suicide bomber after his release from Guantanamo Bay.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman refused to discuss whether monitoring of Jamal al-Harith had stopped in 2014, at which point Ms May had been running the Home Office for four years.
 
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oldgroaner

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I didn't predict a BREXIT victory, I predicted the opposite. That is why I stay away from polls / surveys of this nature. History tell us that they are of no use whatsoever. You should do the same.
So far my prediction record is holding up, and I see no sign of that changing, perhaps you would benefit from listening to me instead of these amusing but pompous remarks you make.
History tell me it is possible to judge a situation of you look at ALL the evidence, not just what suits your preconceptions.
 
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oldgroaner

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From the Idependent
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Third of manufacturing firms want to move some operations out of UK after Brexit, report warns
Leaving EU is a 'game-changer' for UK manufacturing with two-thirds of companies believing the instability will be bad for the economy
Deep uncertainty caused by Theresa May's drive to Brexit has left one in three manufacturing firms planning to shift some operations out of the UK, a damning report reveals today.

The study from consultancy firm KPMG found that China and India - two countries Ms May is desperate to secure greater trade with - are set to be the main beneficiaries from the potential exodus.
The report reads: "Our research finds that companies are considering a number of measures to plan for this potentially radical change. For example, a third are considering relocating aspects of their plant or operations to another country in order to boost productivity or reduce costs, with China and India the most attractive destinations for relocation.

"There is also a slight but notable increase in consideration of moving elements of the supply chain away from the UK."
 

oldgroaner

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The fact part.
I also fact checked everything I post.
Do you?
Most certainly, then how did you not read this fiction?
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"“I work damn hard and I’m really looking for a job, there’s just simply too many people out there in the jobs market and that’s because of overpopulation"
How do you work "Damned hard" if you've never had a job?
And this
"“I was trying to find a job on a jobs website, one job [had] 179 applications – how am I meant to compete against that?” said Stephen."
How did he know the exact number of applicants? and assuming he did, how do the immigrants get those jobs against that level of competition?"

Do either of those statements strike you as factual?
 

oldgroaner

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Nigel Farage says young generation 'have become fascists'
Because they criticise Brexit.
Isn't that original? Stupid, but original.
 

Woosh

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AFAIK, a lot of young people start off doing occasional jobs.
He did not say 'I never had a job'.
People are entitled to bias.
He may consider himself very willing.
 

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AFAIK, a lot of young people start off doing occasional jobs.
He did not say 'I never had a job'.
People are entitled to bias.
He may consider himself very willing.
Willing to be a stooge for ukip?
 

Woosh

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Willing to be a stooge for ukip?
He may be telling his story the way he felt.
Farage made political capital out of it, he is the one to blame, not that youth.
 
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oldgroaner

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AFAIK, a lot of young people start off doing occasional jobs.
He did not say 'I never had a job'.
People are entitled to bias.
He may consider himself very willing.
And this whole interview could have been pre arranged as a pro UKIP publicity stunt as I pointed out, rather that a genuine criticism of Davis's point of view.
 
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