Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

Changed my mind. Yes Tom and OG are right.
In everything.
All tories are scum. Tillsin and I are both xenophobic,racist misinformed fascists.( sorry Tillson)
The whole Brexit campaign has been created by a fascist controlled media leading a Nazi sympathising government, headed by the dictator Mrs May...thete,s plenty more but FFS...
Its impossible to argue coherently against such sh!te so I,m not bothering anymore..
I,m off to rip off a few Greeks, break a few labour voters windows, plan a few UKIP riots, and have a pint with my mate Nige at EDL central.
Fecking idiots.

 

[oldgroaner]

don't understand your point that we have a dictator, thought the conservatives were voted in. whenever has anyone thought that there is a guarantee in politics. i think you underestimate people in thinking we believe the promises and lies of all the parties and press. we vote in the hope that things will get better, unfortunately there seems a lack of trustworthy and honourable people in our political system to give our vote to.

The Dictator is Theresa May who has assumed authority to control the outcome of a critical change to the future of the country without giving the public a chance to change it's mind, in fact she has denied Parliament itself the right to do that.
And by the way I do not disagree in the reasoning behind the way you voted, merely that there is any hope that the people responsible to make the change are motivated to improve the situation for the public.
They have never done so in the past, why would they do so now, and by what means?

 

[oldgroaner]

Changed my mind. Yes Tom and OG are right.
In everything.
All tories are scum. Tillsin and I are both xenophobic,racist misinformed fascists.( sorry Tillson)
The whole Brexit campaign has been created by a fascist controlled media leading a Nazi sympathising government, headed by the dictator Mrs May...thete,s plenty more but FFS...
Its impossible to argue coherently against such sh!te so I,m not bothering anymore..
I,m off to rip off a few Greeks, break a few labour voters windows, plan a few UKIP riots, and have a pint with my mate Nige at EDL central.
Fecking idiots.

As I said, do stay, the comedy element you provide will be missed if you go...
By the way, you have never argued coherently as you forget the statements you have previously made when it suits you.
And then on course your contributions are normally off topic anyway.

 

[Woosh]

zlatan, FWIW, you are not the only one driven out of this thread.

 

[Zlatan]

zlatan, FWIW, you are not the only one driven out of this thread.

Cheers Woosh
I have noticed some folk, definitely including yourself, have attempted to have a balanced approach to topic. I won't leave thread but will confine replies to those worthy of one.
Take care.
Giving it a rest for a while.

 

[oldgroaner]

zlatan, FWIW, you are not the only one driven out of this thread.

Come on Woosh, Zlatan has threatened to leave almost as many times as Farage has resigned from UKIP, and the other fella comes and goes as the mood strikes him, he'll be back.
Where else can they satisfy their primal urges?
Zlatan came on to make a brief protest remember, and bless him, he's still here!
He'll put me on ignore, have a sulk and then reappear with his usual enthusiasm.

 

[oldgroaner]

Cheers Woosh
I have noticed some folk, definitely including yourself, have attempted to have a balanced approach to topic. I won't leave thread but will confine replies to those worthy of one.
Take care.
Giving it a rest for a while.

He's doing a Nigel, and we know what that means

 

[oldgroaner]

Well, OK Tom, we all guessed where you were coming from.
Again, you take the schoolmaster tone. Of course my opinions about Communism are not restricted to just two people and you know it, so why say what you said?
So you don't want anyone to make a profit...fine
Just because I support the Tories does not make me a blind Tory bigot, nor are the Tories inspired by the Nazis.
Again, you know this so why do you say such daft things?
It is pointless to continue this discussion.
Over.

Off again Mike? have a good rest, we'll keep waiting for your next return as usual.

 

[oldtom]

I,m off to rip off a few Greeks, break a few labour voters windows, plan a few UKIP riots, and have a pint with my mate Nige at EDL central.
Fecking idiots.

Have fun & don't remember to write!

Tom

 

[oldtom]

He'll put me on ignore, have a sulk and then reappear with his usual enthusiasm.

I sincerely hope you're wrong OG. There must be another little online community in which he can do some trolling where people won't realise he's full of hist, at least until after a few of his posts.

An internet troll who is also a braggart and a fantasist won't be missed by me.

Tom

 

[tillson]

What crass stupidity from a Nigel Farage fan!

Not only is OG right, the Nazi nonsense has always been the province of the right - the far right! I don't think you will find many political or military leaders among the cast of those in the dock at Nuremberg who could conceivably be called left wingers or even centrist in their views.

Shocking! I really believe you need help.

Tom

There exists a set of correct circumstances under which it is acceptable and correct to draw comparisons with Adolf Hitler, The Third Reich and Nazis. Nothing on this particular thread fits those circumstances.

 

[oldgroaner]

"
Rolls-Royce will report one of the biggest losses in British corporate history this week as Brexit and a corruption scandal leave an indelible mark on the famous aerospace company.

City analysts have forecast that Rolls could report a pre-tax loss of more than £4bn – its worst ever – due to the sharp decline in the value of the pound and the £671m penalty that the company has agreed to pay to settle corruption allegations."

Not good

 

[oldgroaner]

There exists a set of correct circumstances under which it is acceptable and correct to draw comparisons with Adolf Hitler, The Third Reich and Nazis. Nothing on this particular thread fits those circumstances.

I.Y.H.O
It seems this isn't a universal view, and people are entitled to make what comparisons they care to, remember?

 

[oldtom]

There exists a set of correct circumstances under which it is acceptable and correct to draw comparisons with Adolf Hitler, The Third Reich and Nazis. Nothing on this particular thread fits those circumstances.

You are in a perpetual state of denial Tillson but one day you will realise the folly of placing blind faith in people like these:

Perhaps when that day comes, you might grow a spine and stand against the evil people who inspired a feeble-minded loner to viciously murder a female MP on the streets of her constituency.

You might wish to remember that Edmund Burke had this to say:

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Tom

 

[tillson]

I.Y.H.O
It seems this isn't a universal view, and people are entitled to make what comparisons they care to, remember?

Absolutely. And you should also remember that your opinions and thoughts are just that. They are not fact.

 

[boyabouttown]

The Dictator is Theresa May who has assumed authority to control the outcome of a critical change to the future of the country without giving the public a chance to change it's mind, in fact she has denied Parliament itself the right to do that.
And by the way I do not disagree in the reasoning behind the way you voted, merely that there is any hope that the people responsible to make the change are motivated to improve the situation for the public.
They have never done so in the past, why would they do so now, and by what means?

you are probably right in respect that non of the politicians will be motivated to improve the situation of the public, just their own situations. i have a vote, which many people around the world don't have, so i will use it, even though in my opinion theres not much to choose between any of them. the referendum gave the public an opportunity to vote for real change, not just for a change of face at downing street, with nothing really changing. i hope it's for the better, in your opinion it will probably be for the worse. i hope i'm right, as i'm sure you do, even though you can't see it happening.

 

[oldgroaner]

Absolutely. And you should also remember that your opinions and thoughts are just that. They are not fact.

I always do

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[oldgroaner]

you are probably right in respect that non of the politicians will be motivated to improve the situation of the public, just their own situations. i have a vote, which many people around the world don't have, so i will use it, even though in my opinion theres not much to choose between any of them. the referendum gave the public an opportunity to vote for real change, not just for a change of face at downing street, with nothing really changing. i hope it's for the better, in your opinion it will probably be for the worse. i hope i'm right, as i'm sure you do, even though you can't see it happening.

Agreed

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[oldgroaner]

The Sunday Express, where Putin get his good news
"
NUCLEAR WARNING: Royal Navy submarines GROUNDED as CRACK is found in reactor
A CRACKED nuclear reactor has led to more than half of the Royal Navy’s frontline attack submarines being taken out of service.
Experts warned the fault in the reactor of HMS Trenchant was so serious that the Trafalgar fleet may never sail again. The fracture is being treated as an “irreparable generic fault” that will prevent it from being able to carry out normal duties.

It means Britain may be forced to beg for international support in protecting our four Vanguard submarines, which carry Britain’s Trident nuclear deterrent.

Britain deploys seven SSN nuclear-powered hunter-killers. Last week it was revealed that the four older Trafalgar-class submarines, Trenchant, Torbay, Triumph and Talent, were out of action due to repairs and maintenance. "

Would anyone care to explain why this paper releases information that is of use to our enemies and gets away with it?
And perhaps how we can have a secret nuclear deterrent that is being protected by "international support?"

 

[oldgroaner]

And now in the Country aiming to "Protect it's Borders" the Government supposed to do this pulls another "Blinder"
You remember "Dad's Army?" now we present "Dad's Navy"
From the Daily Mail
"
How the Royal Navy is all at sea over an appeal to ancient mariners to crew its new £6.2 billion aircraft carriers

• £6.2 billion aircraft carriers could be crewed by mariners aged 60 and above
• Naval chiefs are to appeal to ex-sailors to apply to key posts due to manpower crisis
• In 2015 a recruitment drive aimed to bring in 4,000 additional personnel but only a few hundred new sailors were hired

Putin will suffer a Hernia when he reads the Express and Mail each morning, you have to wonder what he will direct his trolls to put as Reader comments!
How long before this Government brings back "Press Gangs" round the Pubs? and the joke is people who voted for Brexit expect them to do a good job of running the country when they can't even keep the Navy at sea.