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Woosh said:
I have to renew our gas supply contract sometime this month.
The new price is 10.5 times the current price we are paying.
My first reaction is to go electric.
I was in France last week. Leroy Merlin stock heap pump hot water units.
Chauffe-eau thermodynamique SAUTER Takhini 200 l | Leroy Merlin
I thought of buying it there and bring it back but it looks suspiciously like a nuclear weapon.

Can anyone recommend a UK sourced heat pump hot water unit?
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I know that machine from Leroy Merlin. It uses the typical indoor temperature of 20+ to heat the water to a higher temperature . . As you know SAUTER is a well established brand of quality . There is a systematic problem with French hot water boilers. .. the cylinder is made of mild steel, and enamelled. It needs to have a sacrificial anode to keep from corrosion.
I have seen other suppliers of hot water thermodynamic systems at Trade shows. There is a YouTube video about one in Dundee, which looks identical to what I saw.
 
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Danidl said:
I know that machine from Leroy Merlin. It uses the typical indoor temperature of 20+ to heat the water to a higher temperature . .
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Robbing Peter to pay Paul, reducing the indoor temperature to gain warmer water. Maybe acceptable in Summer but not in Winter in a colder region.
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flecc said:
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, reducing the indoor temperature to gain warmer water. Maybe acceptable in Summer but not in Winter in a colder region.
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I am thinking of placing it outside the building, under a clear plastic roof.
Also we have a lot of roof, may fit solar panels. The quoted price for electricity is about 80p per kWH at the moment when our current fixed price contract runs out.
 
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guerney said:
Why are they allowed to hammer businesses so much?
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will be the final nail in the coffin for small company's and the self employed.
 
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guerney said:
Why are they allowed to hammer businesses so much?
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oligopoly, lack of competition.
government should let people make their own renewable electricity. Anything done to a commercial building generally needs planning consent.
 
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flecc said:
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, reducing the indoor temperature to gain warmer water. Maybe acceptable in Summer but not in Winter in a colder region.
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You might think so.. but it does work out better, because the temperature lift per heat pump is smaller . Eg. If you had one trying to bring 3 Celsius to 45 Celsius, in a single step consumes more energy than going 3 to 20 and then 20 to 45 . The engineering of the refrigerant gases also means that optimum choices can be made. For example butane could be used between 20 and 45. , Whereas it could not be used at 3 .
But it works well because the quantity of heat in the tank at 45 degrees ,is much smaller than a whole house at 20. ..
 
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Woosh said:
I am thinking of placing it outside the building, under a clear plastic roof.
Also we have a lot of roof, may fit solar panels. The quoted price for electricity is about 80p per kWH at the moment when our current fixed price contract runs out.
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Seriously ?. 80 pence?. I am thinking that our costs at 43 cents are high and 26 cents at night.
Solar panels ..are a no brainer any more.
 
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All the quotes I got so far are 80p to 90p a kwh plus daily service charge.
they also receive government money. I am usually against windfall tax but this is profiteering.
 
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would it not be cheaper to run a diesel generator ? or drill a hole 1800 miles down to the mantel :p
 
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Noise pollution is a no no
 
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Woosh said:
Anything done to a commercial building generally needs planning consent.
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A friend of mine was outraged when the Council wouldn't allow a windmill on his shop. I agree with the Council - it's in the middle of a High Street.
 
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i did ask the council years ago if i could make a diy power wall in my brick shed and basically told to feek off.
 
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soundwave said:
i did ask the council years ago if i could make a diy power wall in my brick shed and basically told to feek off.
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Less noise from ground loops.
 
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that's how much it has generated from our 8 solar panels on the roof 8 i think but was installed buy the council but they have never been cleaned or had the inverter serviced since it was installed.
 
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