Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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Were those the ones that didn't get delivered to Iran - after them paying 400 million?
While you are in, something of interest to you. A South Wales charging hub with the fastest of all chargers and the electricity entirely from Solar:

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Also read the last sentence of the short article.
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No it won't run and run since Putin isn't going to be staying in occupation of Ukraine. He isn't even going to attempt to occupy all of Ukraine. All he wants is the eastern two oblasts of Donbass (which are 100% Russian anyway) and a land link from there along the western flank of the Azov Sea to separate the Crimea from Ukraine.

On the map below he's effectively possessed Russian populated Donbass for a decade anyway and Russian populated Crimea since 2014, so all he needs to gain is the red hatched area to protect his Crimean based southern fleet. That's a minute part of Ukraine, but once he has it he can withdraw and leave the Ukrainians alone.

It will be a repeat of his withdrawal from Georgia after he'd completed what he wanted there. Then he'll agree with the outside world's requests to withdraw, thus showing himself to be a reasonable person after all.

Never ever underestimate Putin:

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today, most of the world show their solidarity with the Ukrainian people.
 
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I bet they're now wishing they'd kept some of that bottled sunshine.
I can't believe what is unfolding and life goes on normal elsewhere. Putin is a relic from a bygone age. That this can happen in 21st century just shows how little evolution humans have actually gone through. Sheer greed, megalomania and bullying still rule over conversation and cooperation. All Putin's rhetoric is simply excuses for him to do as he wishes. Denazification? BS and the world knows it. Greed and imperial desire are driving Putin.He wants Russia to have its empire back and with it the World influence it had in the 60s.
He should be charged with War Crimes. Perhaps he might one day.?
 

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So ... 'our' MSM claims they were killed. Russia claims they were simply captured.

Who is telling the truth?

https://www.rt.com/russia/550603-snake-island-border-guards/


One thing is for certain, there is a whole tankload of propaganda and false narrative being rolled out at the moment.
And to think that only one side is guilty of this would be foolish in the extreme.
The problem is trying to work out who's deceiving us the most!
 
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So ... 'our' MSM claims they were killed. Russia claims they were simply captured.

Who is telling the truth?

https://www.rt.com/russia/550603-snake-island-border-guards/


One thing is for certain, there is a whole tankload of propaganda and false narrative being rolled out at the moment.
And to think that only one side is guilty of this would be foolish in the extreme.
The problem is trying to work out who's deceiving us the most!
First casualty of War is truth...
As for which side to believe and who is nearest to truth?
Where are invading troops? Who sent them? Does Ukraine need "denazifying"?
Is Ukraine invading Russia or is Russia invading Ukraine? Yep, lots of lies, no doubt from both sides but the obvious ones are exactly that. Are missiles dropping on Moscow or Kyiv? Did that tank drive over a civilian car or not? Where did it happen? Who was in tank? Who was in car?
Russia yesterday equated situation in Ukraine to ours and NI. Who is telling the big porkies? We over complicate things. Russia is invading Ukraine. Doesn't even need saying, it is unjustifiable at any level.
 

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today, most of the world show their solidarity with the Ukrainian people.
True, but in about a years time we'll be trading with Russia again as if nothing had ever happened.

It's what happens every time.

It happened after their devastating attack on Georgia.

It happened after their separatist forces shot down an airliner full of innocent people including many children.

It happened after they seized the Crimea.

And it's been continuously happening during a decade of them supporting the civil war against Ukraine with arms, killing thousands.

And now despite all the huffings and puffings we'll still be buying their gas, oil and wheat without even a pause.
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While you are in, something of interest to you. A South Wales charging hub with the fastest of all chargers and the electricity entirely from Solar:

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Also read the last sentence of the short article.
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Very interesting, thanks.

I think my county is very aware of charging because of people who come on holiday. Whilst other parts of the UK might adopt EVs faster and in greater numbers, those same people will want to charge while on holiday.

What is the situation regarding places like B&Bs, single self-catering accommodation, etc., which will never be able to install fast chargers. Is there mechanism by which they can charge for, say, overnight charges?

I'd like to think that home charger points could be installed, but paid by the same mechanisms as the main charging sites to avoid the property owner having to get involved and reading their meter and trying to work out how much is owed as they leave.
 

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I see Russia is threatening to bring back the death penalty.

As if they haven't already for the citizens of Ukraine, people who live in Salisbury, Georgia, etc., etc.

And even their own military.
 

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Very interesting, thanks.

I think my county is very aware of charging because of people who come on holiday. Whilst other parts of the UK might adopt EVs faster and in greater numbers, those same people will want to charge while on holiday.

What is the situation regarding places like B&Bs, single self-catering accommodation, etc., which will never be able to install fast chargers. Is there mechanism by which they can charge for, say, overnight charges?

I'd like to think that home charger points could be installed, but paid by the same mechanisms as the main charging sites to avoid the property owner having to get involved and reading their meter and trying to work out how much is owed as they leave.
There's already informal charger sharing by many e-car owners supported by Zap Map information, but the costs are up to them. Some happily just give the odd charge away but in many, probably most cases, those charging insist on paying something.

I think it will be many years before there's enough e-cars to justify having pay for charge machines on private properties, but I doubt they wil be needed. Already all the places we all visit are busily installing fast or rapid chargers, supermarkets, fast food outlets, gyms, camping sites, hotels etc., so partial topping up as part of driving we do routinely will be a norm. In many cases free as a loss leader to attract business.

Another change is to the governmnt subsidy scheme for charger installation. From April that will no longer be for everyone but will be biased towards supporting shared chargers for those in difficult situations, like flats and multiple occupation properties. Installation is often free anyway, paid for by the car manufacturer. I didn't pay a penny for mine, the cost was shared by the government and Nissan.
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There's already informal charger sharing by many e-car owners supported by Zap Map information, but the costs are up to them. Some happily just give the odd charge away but in many, probably most cases, those charging insist on paying something.

I think it will be many years before there's enough e-cars to justify having pay for charge machines on private properties, but I doubt they wil be needed. Already all the places we all visit are busily installing fast or rapid chargers, supermarkets, fast food outlets, gyms, camping sites etc., so partial topping up as part of driving we do routinely will be a norm. In many cases free as a loss leader to attract business.

Another change is to the governmnt subsidy scheme for charger installation. From April that will no longer be for everyone but will be biased towards supporting shared chargers for those in difficult situations, like flats and multiple occupation properties. Installation is often free anyway, paid for by the car manufacturer. I didn't pay a penny for mine, the cost was shared by the government and Nissan.
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In general, I think you are right. It is specifically holiday use - where owners might wish to offer on-site charging (especially welcome at the end of a long journey - with the reassurance that they don't have to immediately seek a charger the next morning). Also, knowing that the payment will not be open to exploitation by either party.
 
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I see Russia is threatening to bring back the death penalty.

As if they haven't already for the citizens of Ukraine, people who live in Salisbury, Georgia, etc., etc.

And even their own military.
And what do you think we were doing in Afghanistan, Iraq, The Balkans, Kenya, Malaysia etc., but serving death sentences on countless thousands and hundreds of our own. All in the name of Empire or lost Empire ambitions. And supporting th USA and its CIA who actually cause much of this trouble.

It was the USA's CIA who caused this entire Ukraine situation, that is undeniable fact. It was the USA's CIA who put Putin into power, again undeniable fact. If the USA hadn't interfered in Russia's business Putin would never have been heard of.

There are no innocent countries.
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I can't believe what is unfolding and life goes on normal elsewhere. Putin is a relic from a bygone age. That this can happen in 21st century just shows how little evolution humans have actually gone through. Sheer greed, megalomania and bullying still rule over conversation and cooperation. All Putin's rhetoric is simply excuses for him to do as he wishes. Denazification? BS and the world knows it. Greed and imperial desire are driving Putin.He wants Russia to have its empire back and with it the World influence it had in the 60s.
He should be charged with War Crimes. Perhaps he might one day.?
"They are developing WMDs" defence :rolleyes:



 
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Change of Subject to something very close to home, FUEL PRICES.

For those of you what dont yet know the new prices from April 1st, I've received mine:

I'm electricity only and my current month bill for this 20th January to 20th February is £196.19 including VAT.

Exactly the same bill after the 1st April increase will be £306.87 including VAT.

That's up 56.41%.

I'm one of the fortunate few who won't be bothered in any way by this, but I'm well aware that these sort of costs will be disastrous for many. I can foresee many elderly and vulnerable people dying of hypothermia next winter if the government doesn't do something far more drastic than their present inadequate relief plans.
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That client of mine I mentioned a couple of months ago, who lost his memory and use of limbs after a stroke - his family say that he's regained more of his memory, and that his relocation to the specialist facility to be assessed for ongoing care in a care home setting has been delayed, but whether this delay is due to his progress or Covid congestion within the NHS, is unknown. He continues intense physiotherapy sessions.
 
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today, most of the world show their solidarity with the Ukrainian people.
Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, Crimea in 2014 and now Ukraine - there will be statements made now as there were then by various western powers, but this situation will eventually settle down and solidarity will not amount to anything.
 
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Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, Crimea in 2014 and now Ukraine - there will be statements made now as there were then by various western powers, but this situation will eventually settle down and solidarity will not amount to anything.
I don't think so this time.
Putin has gone a step too far and bitten off more the he can chew quickly. Yes, without doubt he can win but the Ukrainians are going to ensure a high cost for both sides. His explanations at home are senseless and the Russians will see that. (Denazification when Ukrainian president is Jewish is hardly a good opening gambit)
I think much depends on how many Russians go back home in body bags. He was expecting to walk in to Ukraine as Taliban marched into Afghanistan.. He got that wrong.
This is not going to end quickly as some suggest. Even when/if Ukraine government falls Russia will be incapable of subduing 40 million Ukrainians. They have had freedom and democracy in their grasp. Putin has made a massive miscalculation. His digging himself out could easily see situation escalate beyond Ukraine/Russia. (US now sending a further 6000 troops to Poland)
This is as near to 3rd world war as we have ever been. When Russians realise they are in jesting our anti tank technology I wonder what their reaction will be? That is only one of many to routes for escalation.
Passing this off as Russian internal manoeuvring is not sering situation as it actually is. Ukraine and Russia are at war. Thousands are dying.
 
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