If the Prince Charles cash for honours scandal lives longer than HMQ, will he not be in a position where he could not be charged? Court cases use the Regina v. fiction. But Rex v. Rex would be silly.
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Technically he couldn't be, but for a long time by convention the Royal family have all submitted to the law.
For example from memory Prince Charles and Princess Anne at least have pleaded guilty to speeding in magistrates courts and been fined, presumably licences endorsed too.
However, the CPS decided not to prosecute the Duke of Edinburgh for driving his Range Rover upside down on a public road, subject to his licence being surrendered.
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In many ways, I agree. But specifically the sovereign might be held to be a different matter. He could submit to anything by choice, but by force of law?, I doubt.
No he couldn't due to the way in which we administer the law. We'd need to change the charge to the State v defendent with his approval for the change.
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he could pay a fine of £50.
Punishment of abuses in connection with the grant of honours.
(1)If any person accepts or obtains or agrees to accept or attempts to obtain from any person, for himself or for any other person, or for any purpose, any gift, money or valuable consideration as an inducement or reward for procuring or assisting or endeavouring to procure the grant of a dignity or title of honour to any person, or otherwise in connection with such a grant, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanour.
(2)If any person gives, or agrees or proposes to give, or offers to any person any gift, money or valuable consideration as an inducement or reward for procuring or assisting or endeavouring to procure the grant of a dignity or title of honour to any person, or otherwise in connection with such a grant, he shall be guilty of a misdemeanour
(3)Any person guilty of a misdemeanour under this Act shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to a fine not exceeding five hundred pounds, or to both such imprisonment and such fine, or on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or to a fine not exceeding fifty pounds, or to both such imprisonment and such fine, and where the person convicted (whether on indictment or summarily) received any such gift, money, or consideration as aforesaid which is capable of forfeiture, he shall in addition to any other punishment be liable to forfeit the same to His Majesty.
I did sail there once many years ago but its not a regular windsurf spot for me.
Yep, kite boarding is almost a flying sport. Tried it... Not for me.. Too stuck in my ways.
Staying on the water is more of an objective for me these days.
Windsurfing and kitesurfing just feel so different.. Nothing like one another really but many do both. Lots of windsurfers went over to kite surfing,generally they return after a few years...
Sailed last 3 days... Very cold today tho..
Misunderstanding I think. Oyster and I were discussing whether Charles could be forcibly prosecuted by others such as the CPS after he had become king. He couldn't of course since the charge would be Rex versus Rex, him charging himself.
Only the current arrangement serves meanwhile, where Royalty submitsto the law voluntarily in the public interest.
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The hard shadows are from the flash - if that photo was photoshopped, there is analysis software available, and I'm sure the results would have been widely reported if there were signs of manipulation.
"We're going to Rhosneigr dude! Wanna come?", is all my windsurfer mates said (mostly), but I was too busy getting one particular part of my body wet, and that was so much more enjoyable.
It's not impossible, just not easy or (often) cheap - edit to shorten, then compress at a slightly lower resolution with a H.265 codec, and/or upload to Youtube?
For her, milking him may become a lifelong habit. I wish her the best of luck.
assuming the police enquiry would not take very long and Charles still wants to submit himself to common laws, the most he would incur is a fine. Don't you think?
Yes I agree.
The discussion with Oyster was purely hypothetical on the basis of the Queen dying first.
The difficulty of him being charged with a criminal offence if he became King meanwhile is the Rex v Rex issue. That doesn't arise with a minor offence tried in a Magistrates Court where it's the Police v the Defendant.
N.B. Reference Guerneys post above. He unwisely put me on ignore so doesn't see my posts and therefore has no idea what is being discussed. If you reply to him quoting my post he may see it then.
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it would be his own jail.
could he designate his home as HMP?
He could just tell us plebs to **** off in a newsnight interview. That should settle it.
There's always time for both but not always inclination. I, d take windsurfing all day long, which it can be. Other is fleeting moment of enjoyment, and as Oscar Wild said, position ridiculous and expense intolerable. Don't think he was talking about Windsurfing.
Just for info. I, ve tried loads of sports. Hang gliding, jet skiing, sports car racing, snow sports, water skiing... And for me nothing comes close to feeling of danger, excitement, speed to windsurfing with such little actual risk and for its cost. Started in 1979...its only thing I, ve stuck with but its dominated my life. On par with a drug addiction, which I, m convinced it is.
My knees won't take much more though. My sailing days is numbered.
On its day Rhosneigre is on par with anywhere in the world. My usual haunt is other side of country tho, Fraisthorpe, a few miles south of Bridlington. Superb on its day.(there today, damned cold tho)
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You must have started very early into the sport. I saw it first in France .. La Rochelle Beach and Harbour in July 76.
You might know this exercise for knees - a physio directed me to do this regularly after my knee got twatted by a black BMW which suddenly leapt out of a wall to my left in front of my bike and I tumbled over it's bonnet: Stand with your feet slightly apart (a couple of foot lengths), about 1.5ft away from a wall, with your back against the wall... slide your back down the wall until you are in a chair sitting position (or as near as you can manage). Hold for 10 seconds, push yourself back up. Repeat five times, once a day. This strengthens the muscles which keep your kneecaps in their correct positions, at a healthy distance from the bones.
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