How many past labour movements would Rayner, Nandi, Abbott, Corbyn or even Starmer have risen to higher echelons in.
Say what you like about Blair and Campbell they were at least intelligent, competent, astute and well organised. Both spoke well and would have fitted into any Labour government,even Wilson's who was probably most talented Labour statesman in history.
Saying media is to blame for current Labour's ability or that because they haven't held power they can't be judged is utterly ridiculous. You don't have to give somebody a job to know the can't do it. I was a decent footballer 40 years ago, I didn't need to play for Mufc to know I wasn't good enough.
You don't need to elect a Party to know they couldn't organise the country when they can't even stop arguing amongst themselves.
As for which socialist party I, d vote for. None we have at moment.
Labour Party might as well put Blair back in charge, Starmer is Blair lite.
At least Blair /Campbell/Brown were intelligent.. Don't think any of Labour are at moment. Bring Milliband back from States, tell him to start again, clear the lot out, build a party representative of voters and not one for voters 50 years ago, and I, d vote for it.
Starmer does nothing but appeal to the extreme minority pretending to be champion of underprivileged. He is a terrible leader Woosh. Tories have been in complete disarray past few months. What has Starmer actually done to capitalise. Nothing, OK have a go at PMQ, but nothing at all to fo with how he would have done better on anything.
They are both jokes. Country deserves better than either current Tories or Labour. It's shockingly bad from both.
Why is it Johnson is still in power and his poll results showing improvement. Because Starmer is so bad.