Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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According to the WorldometerJohn Hopkins figures 13 million out of the 66 million in the UK have now or had in the past 2 years contracted Covid. Thats a global figure of about 20%. Now I have often voiced scepticism about the UK data ,as erring on the low side.. But if one does one of those calculations which only includes the vaccine eligible cohorts, you would very likely reach a 30% figure.
Rather than calling them lies, and figures drawn out of the air, I would consider them careless use of data.
As always you get the wrong end of the stick. I am the one accusing them of lies and have been very specific as to what they refer to. It is clearly NOT anything to do with a global 30% of infections, a figure I'd support as realistic.
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got there in the end, had to use my ema plastic weld or just kept falling apart but looking good for 6 squid
 
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Diversion by trivia:

Boris Johnson has named returning the crown stamps to pint glasses and scrapping a ban on selling goods in pounds and ounces on his list of the “key successes” of Brexit this year.

(Just ignore the definition of the pound weight, "the pound shall be 0.45359237 kilogram exactly." Which only recently stopped being a lump of alloy near Paris.)
 
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With the shortage of lateral flow tests rapidly becoming a serious problem, the government is about to introduce a new one minute test.

Put your right index finger in your mouth and stick your left index finger up your arse. Hold the position for 60 seconds.

Now swap fingers. If it still tastes and smells the same, ISOLATE IMMEDIATELY.
 
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Whitty & Van Tam have been rewarded for their services to covid lock-downs. Along with war criminal Tony Blair, they will join the ranks of pedophile and serial sex offender Jimmy Saville, and grotesque embezzler Phillip Green. Congratulations to them all.
 
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With the shortage of lateral flow tests rapidly becoming a serious problem, the government is about to introduce a new one minute test.

Put your right index finger in your mouth and stick your left index finger up your arse. Hold the position for 60 seconds.

Now swap fingers. If it still tastes and smells the same, ISOLATE IMMEDIATELY.
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With the shortage of lateral flow tests rapidly becoming a serious problem, the government is about to introduce a new one minute test.

Put your right index finger in your mouth and stick your left index finger up your arse. Hold the position for 60 seconds.

Now swap fingers. If it still tastes and smells the same, ISOLATE IMMEDIATELY.
Doesn't work for the PM. So much crap comes out of his mouth...
 

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In post 103,333 on the 31st I stated that the government was lying when saying they'd reached 75% boosted.

Below I'm recording their official website graphic updated to 4pm 31/12/2021. On it you will see the recorded percentage of the eligible is 59% boosted. In addition, the total boosted and third dose of 33.9 millions is only half of the total UK population, so on that alternative basis the lie becomes bigger.

This latest lie is now on permanent record here:

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In post 103,333 on the 31st I stated that the government was lying when saying they'd reached 75% boosted.

Below I'm recording their official website graphic updated to 4pm 31/12/2021. On it you will see the recorded percentage of the eligible is 59% boosted. In addition, the total boosted and third dose of 33.9 millions is only half of the total UK population, so on that alternative basis the lie becomes bigger.

This latest lie is now on permanent record here:

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A number of people, albeit small, have had three (or more) vaccines due to other issues. (E.g. immunosuppressive medicines.)

I can't see anyone ensuring they are not counted as being boosted.

Even if the numbers are small, it is yet another way in which faith in statistics withers.
 
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flecc

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A number of people, albeit small, have had three (or more) vaccines due to other issues. (E.g. immunosuppressive medicines.)

I can't see anyone ensuring they are not counted as being boosted.

Even if the numbers are small, it is yet another way in which faith in statistics withers.
That's the point I'm making, that they admit all the medical issues third doses are included, and there's a fair number of them. That too makes their 75% boosted lie even bigger.

I do trust the NHS figures though, since there are too many involved in the daily update and construct for there to be fiddling. That's why I've posted the graphic since that disappears daily with no record kept.
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In post 103,333 on the 31st I stated that the government was lying when saying they'd reached 75% boosted.

Below I'm recording their official website graphic updated to 4pm 31/12/2021. On it you will see the recorded percentage of the eligible is 59% boosted. In addition, the total boosted and third dose of 33.9 millions is only half of the total UK population, so on that alternative basis the lie becomes bigger.

This latest lie is now on permanent record here:

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If the population of the UK is 66 Million , and there are 3.3 million in the 0 to 4 , 3.5million in the next category and another 3.3 Million in the remainder of the under 14 age group, then the figure of potentially eligible candidates is now about 56M, .. Note population age statistics taken from Statistica . 34/56 is 60%.
No flecc..I try not to get the wrong end of the stick.
 

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If the population of the UK is 66 Million , and there are 3.3 million in the 0 to 4 , 3.5million in the next category and another 3.3 Million in the remainder of the under 14 age group, then the figure of potentially eligible candidates is now about 56M, .. Note population age statistics taken from Statistica . 34/56 is 60%.
No flecc..I try not to get the wrong end of the stick.
Yes you do, every time and once again now. In what way does your 60%, agreeing with my NHS 59%, support your contention that the government isn't lying, just being careless?

It doesn't, the government contention of 75% was a deliberate wilful lie and nothing to do with carelessness so don't try to show otherwise when the margin of error is so great and their statement impossible at present.

I'm getting bloody fed up with the way you constantly butt in trying to undermine my factual posts with this sort of idiocy. I'm providing a research service to members in what is an English political matter and bugger all to do with you in Ireland.

You've been on the attack continuously for two years now, trying to disprove my contentions which have all proved to be correct and officially accepted in many cases.

My early 2020 contention that we in London would benefit from the massive early infection we suffered, proven by all outcomes since.

My contention I made early in this year that the vaccines were not all they were being hyped up to be, now easily seen.

My early contention that natural immunity from prior infection is at least as good as vaccination and probably a bit better, now also supported by lower London death rates and belatedly by the government's chief statistician nationally.

And now my contention with clear proofs that the government is deliberately lying in a propaganda campaign to grossly exaggerate the benefits of the vaccines, this for purely political purposes.

You have disagreed with all these contentions when I originally made them, your posts all on record, so you've been shown to be wrong each time.
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