Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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Can't even get their mate appointed as chair of charity commission:

New chair of charities watchdog resigns over ‘inappropriate’ behaviour
Martin Thomas steps down after it emerged he was subject of misconduct complaints at Women for Women International UK

 
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@oyster - I can't find your post on Magnesium - Magnesium Citrate 600mg capsules arrived today... but the three raw garlic cloves a day has worked a minor miracle by removing the horrible tight feeling in my chest. I think I can actually slow jog a mile or three very soon! I'll do my best to limit my slow jogging sessions to a mile every few days, but once I start it's hard to stop! I discovered a couple of weeks ago that a client has been in hospital for 7 weeks, having suffered a stroke. He's completely lost his memory, use of limbs and sides. Many of my clients are of a certain age, heart attacks and strokes abound.
 
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@oyster - I can't find your post on Magnesium - Magnesium Citrate 600mg capsules arrived today... but the three raw garlic cloves a day has worked a minor miracle by removing the horrible tight feeling in my chest. I think I can actually slow jog a mile or three very soon! I'll do my best to keep it to a mile every few days, but once I start it's hard to stop! I discovered a couple of weeks ago that a client has been in hospital for 7 weeks, having suffered a stroke. He's completely lost his memory, use of limbs and sides.
Poor sod. Was that related to anything else - or just one of those things?
 

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If he had any kind of honor or moral compass he would have quit months ago, but the longer he stays in post the more chance Labour have of winning the next election.
The lies, misconduct and corruption will all have been forgotten by the time of the next election. There will be a new storyline on Eastenders occupying peoples’ minds and the promises of slightly cheaper booze on the horizon. He’ll be fine.
 

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Occasionally, they bring cases against their own to court with such vigour that judges have been known to criticise the police for wasting court time.
Historic. Remember the police cannot prosecute now, other than in trifling matters including fixed penalties. It's the job of the Crown Prosecution Service so they filter out vexatious prosecutions.

To restore some public confidence, the police should investigate and prosecute everyone attached to the shameful partying last December.
It wouldn't make any difference to public confidence in politics, that was lost long ago. It would just encourage more vexatious prosecution attempts.

These "partying" staff were just doing what much of the rest of the country were doing, bending the rules a little. We need to match that by recognising their human nature and bending the administration of those rules for that special occasion of Christmas.

Christmas is the season of peace and goodwill, not the season of vindictiveness.
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guerney

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Poor sod. Was that related to anything else - or just one of those things?
The last time I saw him was two years ago - he was a lifelong heavy B&H smoker, offered me one. I tried to talk him into vaping, which is how I managed to "Quit". He was also fatter than he was the year before. It's a very bad stroke. His family are looking into "Power of Attorney", because his memory is still blank.
 

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The last time I saw him was two years ago - he was a lifelong heavy B&H smoker, offered me one. I tried to talk him into vaping, which is how I managed to "Quit". He was also fatter than he was the year before. It's a very bad stroke. His family are looking into "Power of Attorney".
Not meant as a point-scoring, smug, response. But when I gave up, I cut down, then stopped. Had a few, maybe half a dozen, over the next week or two - then never again. I really don't think I could have kept going for that first year had I gone down the vaping route. (Not that it was available then.)

Many years before, I had tried gum, and that was horrible.
 

guerney

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Not meant as a point-scoring, smug, response. But when I gave up, I cut down, then stopped. Had a few, maybe half a dozen, over the next week or two - then never again. I really don't think I could have kept going for that first year had I gone down the vaping route. (Not that it was available then.)
I vape like mad, but I don't think I'm actually getting much nicotine - it's easy to go without... at this stage it's merely a habit. When I cease vaping completely for a day (rare), there's nothing like the carnival of horrors that ceasing smoking cigarettes brings forth. The first time I managed to quit cigarettes (but not nicotine), was using those white plastic menthol cartridge pacifiers. Suddenly, I was addicted to small white plastic tubes...Bloody hell, quitting cigarettes was hard...
 

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If he had any kind of honor or moral compass he would have quit months ago, but the longer he stays in post the more chance Labour have of winning the next election.
I would have suggested this (below) but it suggests that he has the ability to choose Yes or No - which very much appears not to be the case.


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The last time I saw him was two years ago - he was a lifelong heavy B&H smoker, offered me one. I tried to talk him into vaping, which is how I managed to "Quit". He was also fatter than he was the year before. It's a very bad stroke. His family are looking into "Power of Attorney", because his memory is still blank.
If the mind is blank..its too late for power of attorney .. Its Ward of Court time . A person must be in possession of their faculties when THEY assign a PoA to another. They can they decide how an enduring PoA gets invoked. The family must make application to a Court for the person to be declared incompetent , provide evidence and suggest their minder... Its a lot more expensive . ... Just one of those things which are best done early. Not as important if all accounts are joint and there is a couple married, but for a single person , its a different matter.
I did this on two occasions ... for my Mother it was delightfully informal . We just went down to the Bank and she signed me into her accounts as Joint. Then when she went into care homes etc. We introduced ourselves as the person who takes care of her monet. My sisters were the people who cared for her health decisions.. I found the tax, pensions public services people extremely accommodating.
.. for an Aunt, her Sister, it was much more formal an Enduring Power of Attorney Document , lodged at some expense in the High Court. ..and a lot more shanigans
 
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I vape like mad, but I don't think I'm actually getting much nicotine - it's easy to go without... at this stage it's merely a habit. When I cease vaping completely for a day (rare), there's nothing like the carnival of horrors that ceasing smoking cigarettes brings forth. The first time I managed to quit cigarettes (but not nicotine), was using those white plastic menthol cartridge pacifiers. Suddenly, I was addicted to small white plastic tubes...Bloody hell, quitting cigarettes was hard...
This is strictly fwiw, I used to smoke 50/day - I was enveloped in a permanent smog of tar. Paradoxically that helped me with the cold turkey - when I quit I could smell again (stood on shore of lagoon I went to as child and smelled the receding tide for first time in twenty years). I remember the carnival of horrors of quiting, but held on to the escape from the horror of smoking - and tried to distract. If one make it past the first few weeks the physiological withdrawal is in theory at least mostly behind one
 
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This is strictly fwiw, I used to smoke 50/day - I was enveloped in a permanent smog of tar. Paradoxically that helped me with the cold turkey - when I quit I could smell again (stood on shore of lagoon I went to as child and smelled the receding tide for first time in twenty years). I remember the carnival of horrors of quiting, but held on to the escape from the horror of smoking - and tried to distract. If one make it past the first few weeks the physiological withdrawal is in theory at least mostly behind one
When we gave up (both at the same time - give or take a few days), we found the smell of smoke extremely disturbing - for years.

We'd individually find ourselves smelling smoke, sometimes tobacco, sometimes "electrical", diesel, bonfire or other flavours. It took years for us to really appreciate that phantosmia is a known, but rarely discussed or acknowledged, symptom of hypothyroidism. Each of us found this resolved, very slowly, as we were separately diagnosed and treated. That is, she went through that for a few years, then I did.
 

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If the mind is blank..its too late for power of attorney .. Its Ward of Court time . A person must be in possession of their faculties when THEY assign a PoA to another. They can they decide how an enduring PoA gets invoked. The family must make application to a Court for the person to be declared incompetent , provide evidence and suggest their minder... Its a lot more expensive . ... Just one of those things which are best done early. Not as important if all accounts are joint and there is a couple married, but for a single person , its a different matter.
I did this on two occasions ... for my Mother it was delightfully informal . We just went down to the Bank and she signed me into her accounts as Joint. Then when she went into care homes etc. We introduced ourselves as the person who takes care of her monet. My sisters were the people who cared for her health decisions.. I found the tax, pensions public services people extremely accommodating.
.. for an Aunt, her Sister, it was much more formal an Enduring Power of Attorney Document , lodged at some expense in the High Court. ..and a lot more shanigans
Thank you Danidl - I don't know exactly what the family are considering or doing. I don't know them well, but I very much liked my client. It's saddening that he may never be the same again.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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The lies, misconduct and corruption will all have been forgotten by the time of the next election. There will be a new storyline on Eastenders occupying peoples’ minds and the promises of slightly cheaper booze on the horizon. He’ll be fine.
I'm growing very fond of boris. He's become everything I could possibly have hoped for. And exactly the kind of leader conservatives in UK needed. God, cried out for. The kind that would involuntarilly hold up a mirror to make them see themselves. They do have a long way to go, but boris is happilly turning into the gift that keeps on giving.
 

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I remember the carnival of horrors of quiting, but held on to the escape from the horror of smoking - and tried to distract. If one make it past the first few weeks the physiological withdrawal is in theory at least mostly behind one
I instantly gave up from nearly 40 years of smoking and 60 a day in the latter years, but I could easily have restarted at any time up to two years beyond. It was only in the third year that I could feel secure from any desire to smoke again.
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flecc

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I'm growing very fond of boris. He's become everything I could possibly have hoped for. And exactly the kind of leader conservatives in UK needed. God, cried out for. The kind that would involuntarilly hold up a mirror to make them see themselves. They do have a long way to go, but boris is happilly turning into the gift that keeps on giving.
Despite every clanger he's dropped he could well lead the party into the next General Election and win it.

Being in power is everything to the Tories. When Boris reminds them that he won two elections to be Mayor in staunchly Labour London, he won the referendum to leave the EU and he won the General Election gaining an overall majority in parliament, their minds will soon focus on their lack of anyone else who could do that.
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