Brexit, for once some facts.

Zlatan

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it's a whole ecosystem based on conservative party values.
Liz Truss has pretty good parents which is more than the other candidates: Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, Rishi Sunak, Pritti Patel and Matt Hancock.
I think Rishi will get it... He distanced himself from the parties...
Odd isn't it. Selecting a future PM on strength he doesn't party...????
 

flecc

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With Omicron seemingly on widespread special offer, I did my shop this afternoon to see if Sainsburys had it in stock.

No signs in me at present, perhaps the HGV driver shortage affecting their supplies.

I'll have to try again next week. It will be an irony if after all my struggles to get both jabs and the booster, I have the same struggle to get Omicron to see what it's like.
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soundwave

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tesco and asda are out of bog rolls already and stripping the shelfs of everything else pmsl.

even when they do lock down again the virus friendly supermarkets can stay open lol :p
 

jonathan.agnew

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I'm not concerned about infection rates in London. We've had these rapid rises for both the Alpha and Delta variants but the hospitalisation rates, while wobbling up and down, stay very constant over time and death rates remain low. That last fact calls into question their contention that prior immunity isn't effective against later variants like Delta.

Here's the hospital admissions chart to yesterday, showing how the Omicron rise is no more rapid that those prior to it and the level well within prior Delta and Autumn bounds. In other words, cool the hysteria, it isn't justified:




And here's the infection chart, showing how the high Omicron infections aren't turning into hospitalisation yet:

Hospitalizations up 10% week on week nationally, but by a third week on week in London, and we're having both a delta and omicron pandemic simultaneously
 
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oyster

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Hospitalizations up 10% week on week nationally, but by a third week on week in London, and we're having both a delta and omicron pandemic simultaneously
If you (and I know this is preposterous) believed Johnson, the numbers have risen by 780,000.

Sad when the PM gets it wrong by a factor of 10 - and no-one corrects him.
 

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soundwave

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oyster

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Johnson might need a helping hand. His recent attempts at speeches have been dismal failures. So, in preparation for some time very soon, here’s one I prepared earlier. (I know Johnson doesn’t quite understand the word “prepare” but he might want to pick it up anyway.)

"We're leaving Downing Street for the last time after eleven two-and-a-half wonderful appalling years and we're happy to leave the UK in a very much better state than when we came here, and go into exile on Elba." she he said.

No payment needed but, if you have one, a photo of you surrendering your passport to Border Force as you go through emigration would be appreciated. Remember to declare who donated your tickets in the register of members’ interests. For a change.
 

soundwave

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id recommend zippy for the new pm :p

 

oyster

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I know this is a poll run by/for a thinktank, but has some merit for getting the questions discussed.

UK public don’t want ‘perennial fights of a permanent Brexit’ with EU – report
Report by the European Council on Foreign Relations says that more people see bloc as a key partner than the US
 

flecc

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It's fun and games until someone loses an eye. Or have covid related arterial leg thrombosis and an amputation. the fact that the earth seem flat between ones house and tescos does not mean one isn't standing on a sphere hurtling through space.
With your extreme pessimism it's a wonder you bother to get up each day. Those are things that only happen to other people, and in that I'm over 99.9% correct.

And as for the sphere hurtling through space, it's been doing that for 4.6 billion years. What makes you think it might do something nasty to me in the very brief moment I'm on it? The odds against that happening have a long string of nines after the 99's percentage decimal point. That's why we are trying to save the sphere from ourselves, it's going to be here for a long time into the future and we want to share that.
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