I wonder if his upset is as much for our benefit as boris' in hoc about the parties. In other news "The I" think liz "in December I'll open pork markets in beijing" truss may be our next leaderJust what will Geidt decide to do?
Boris Johnson’s standards adviser on brink of quitting over Downing Street flat
Lord Geidt considering his position after Prime Minister allegedly misled him over refurbishment
By Harry Yorke, Whitehall Editor and Gordon Rayner, Associate Editor 9 December 2021 • 9:45pm
Boris Johnson’s standards adviser Lord Geidt on brink of quitting over Downing Street flat
Adviser considering his position after Prime Minister allegedly misled him over refurbishmentwww.telegraph.co.uk
To quantify, it seems to cause approximately half as many serious admissions as delta - in SA's young (but quite hiv+) populationI've just watched the latest video from Dr. John Campbell, he is still optimistic that Omicron could mean the end of the pandemic for us all. He mentioned a works party that took place in a hotel in Norway 15 days ago. A company had 120 employees attend, two of these employees had recently been to South Africa, one of which came back with the Omicron variant.
It looks like the event became a super spreader, of the 120 employees, 70 came down with the virus plus another 50 people who were in the hotel at the time of the party.
So far this sounds like fairly bad news however, 15 days after this event not one of the people who got infected that night has ended up in hospital.
He has also been getting feedback from people who have had Omicron and the symptoms are fairly mild these include.
Fatigue
Aching joints
Headache
Slight sore throat.
You do not get a cough or runny nose.
These seem to last for about 3 days.
Virtually all cases in South Africa now were Omicron, Delta has all but disappeared from there.
The only bit of data that he was slightly concerned about was that there had been a slight increase in deaths in South Africa, but it was not known if these were Covid related.
Were these Norwegians previously vaccinated?. That is the critical question.I've just watched the latest video from Dr. John Campbell, he is still optimistic that Omicron could mean the end of the pandemic for us all. He mentioned a works party that took place in a hotel in Norway 15 days ago. A company had 120 employees attend, two of these employees had recently been to South Africa, one of which came back with the Omicron variant.
It looks like the event became a super spreader, of the 120 employees, 70 came down with the virus plus another 50 people who were in the hotel at the time of the party.
So far this sounds like fairly bad news however, 15 days after this event not one of the people who got infected that night has ended up in hospital.
He has also been getting feedback from people who have had Omicron and the symptoms are fairly mild these include.
Fatigue
Aching joints
Headache
Slight sore throat.
You do not get a cough or runny nose.
These seem to last for about 3 days.
Virtually all cases in South Africa now were Omicron, Delta has all but disappeared from there.
The only bit of data that he was slightly concerned about was that there had been a slight increase in deaths in South Africa, but it was not known if these were Covid related.
There is contradictory evidence emerging from SA. Hospitals still reporting no deaths from Omicron but government figures showing exceptionally high excess deaths, increasing in proportion to Omicron infection rate.I've just watched the latest video from Dr. John Campbell, he is still optimistic that Omicron could mean the end of the pandemic for us all. He mentioned a works party that took place in a hotel in Norway 15 days ago. A company had 120 employees attend, two of these employees had recently been to South Africa, one of which came back with the Omicron variant.
It looks like the event became a super spreader, of the 120 employees, 70 came down with the virus plus another 50 people who were in the hotel at the time of the party.
So far this sounds like fairly bad news however, 15 days after this event not one of the people who got infected that night has ended up in hospital.
He has also been getting feedback from people who have had Omicron and the symptoms are fairly mild these include.
Fatigue
Aching joints
Headache
Slight sore throat.
You do not get a cough or runny nose.
These seem to last for about 3 days.
Virtually all cases in South Africa now were Omicron, Delta has all but disappeared from there.
The only bit of data that he was slightly concerned about was that there had been a slight increase in deaths in South Africa, but it was not known if these were Covid related.
I'm fairly sure he said they were all vaccinated I will check up on that in a minute.Were these Norwegians previously vaccinated?. That is the critical question.
Just checked all 120 from the company were double vaccinated. He doesn't say if the other people who were infected were vaccinated or not.I'm fairly sure he said they were all vaccinated I will check up on that in a minute.
In moist, winter air, far more likely to survive than is dry, warm or hot air. What is it like in Norway at this time of year?I posted the info about the Norway super spreader event on another site here is one of the replies.
' I believe the other 50 people that were in the hotel were using the restaurant AFTER the party had finished their meal.
This is because the virus is airborne and hangs in the air for hours (it is not person2person transmission).
Also read report of a case where someone in a hotel was infected whilst staying in a different room opposite an infected persons room - again it is airborne. '
What do you folks think, is it possible that the virus can hang in the air for hours in a room, if so would that explain why it seems to be spreading so quickly?
I think an awful lot could depend on Geidt.Will Johnson survive? Looking at the line of hopefuls circling, I’m starting to hope he does and thus guarantee defeat at the next election.
Giveaway Sunak, good grief.
Liz Truss. If ever there was a face fit for the Devil to do a wet fart in, this is it.
I think if I was a Labour strategist I would think the best chance they have of winning the next election is if the Tories go into it with Boris still as their leader.Will Johnson survive? Looking at the line of hopefuls circling, I’m starting to hope he does and thus guarantee defeat at the next election.
Who? Who’s WHO?Anybody else think WHO have been utterly useless during pandemic.
Always give advice post event.. Originally said travel had been responsible for spreading Covid(you don't say) and that corridors should have bern closed earlier. Shouldn't they have told everybody that when it could have done something.
Their spokes person always tries to look smart but relaxed, relaxed like a bloke late for interview because he, d had to change wheel on his Porsche and left his top button on done to tell everybody.
Came on other day and said"Omicron had changed direction of Pandemic".. With no explanation of which way... But day before they were saying we should be reinstating all travel across borders.
Seems to me to be a toothless useless organisation. Either give it some clout or close it.
Omicron hasn't really hit here yet so below are the current numbers in my areas of interest put on record before it does. They can be compared later if and when it does.There is contradictory evidence emerging from SA. Hospitals still reporting no deaths from Omicron but government figures showing exceptionally high excess deaths, increasing in proportion to Omicron infection rate.
the virus can hang in the air and stay potent for days or weeks even, or it just stay dormant.What do you folks think, is it possible that the virus can hang in the air for hours in a room, if so would that explain why it seems to be spreading so quickly?
Zlatan..... You need to go a little deeper. Look at the WHO DAILY bulletins, There are new potential epidemics from all the golden oldies nearly every day, and the vast majority are snuffed out at a local level. The Covid is literally the one that got away, and it got away because its mode of transmission was unusual . .. people were infectious BEFORE they even felt bad..Anybody else think WHO have been utterly useless during pandemic.
Always give advice post event.. Originally said travel had been responsible for spreading Covid(you don't say) and that corridors should have bern closed earlier. Shouldn't they have told everybody that when it could have done something.
Their spokes person always tries to look smart but relaxed, relaxed like a bloke late for interview because he, d had to change wheel on his Porsche and left his top button on done to tell everybody.
Came on other day and said"Omicron had changed direction of Pandemic".. With no explanation of which way... But day before they were saying we should be reinstating all travel across borders.
Seems to me to be a toothless useless organisation. Either give it some clout or close it.