Brexit, for once some facts.

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We are all paying hefty tariff penalties on our energy bills in order to cut the amount of carbon dioxide generated and released into the atmosphere.

Meanwhile, the government is paying eye-watering sums of money to bribe a UK based, US owned company into manufacturing carbon dioxide. As if that wasn’t perverse enough, the business the government is throwing money at used to be British. Like all manufacturing in this country, the company was sold to the US in a skip sale and they closed it. Now the Business Minister, Quasi Coat-Hanger is making the British taxpayer, pay the American company to reopen it.

Biden doesn’t need a trade deal with the U.K., the fuckwit clowncart government running this country will accidentally give the US everything they want for free.
They will also sell the fertiliser they produce at increased prices.
 

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You've done it again haven't you?
" yet earlier proclaimed to world Australia should have chosen the French subs... It isn't me assuming I could ever offer anything to Australians with regards their choice. "
I said no such thing did I?
I said they shouldn't rat on a deal.
Morally it's wrong.
And pointed out you can't sink enemy ships with submarines you won't have for twenty years
In all the post you have made on here you haven't changed , still posting what you think people have said from your point of view, not what they actually post.
Self appointed Thought Policeman from first to last.
Think about this statement you posted.

"Nuclear submarines are arguably the pinnacle of man's technological achievement. At the moment they probably represent the ultimate strategic military weapon."

Now tell me how it is wise to announce to your potential enemy you aren't going to get them for twenty years, and in the meantime won't have Diesel electric subs either?

Fortunately none of us have to ask your permission to have our own opinions, and not using other people's for launching uncalled for attacks on our judgement would be appreciated
Has anyone watched Vigil?
 

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Nuclear submarines are arguably the pinnacle of man's technological achievement. At the moment they probably represent the ultimate strategic military weapon.
Some might be, but perhaps not our ones.

I've been watching the program on Channel 5 about one of our hunter-killer subs, said to be a documentary but it became a better comedy than some said to be that on TV.

It set out on a mission to shadow and protect one of our nuclear missile submarines in the Atlantic, but then a mechanical breakdown meant they had to head back home before even finding our missile sub.

After repairs it set out again on the original mission with a new captain on board, but suddenly was ordered to switch to intercepting a Russian sub heading towards Scottish waters. But then all the toilets on board blocked and an engineer was struggling to clear them so as the hours passed, the 100 crew were having to keep their legs crossed for seven hours with no toilets.

As if that wasn't enough, then the air system failed so no fresh air or toilets and the crew then had to put on gas masks with attached air supplies. Reaching the zone where the Russian sub was supposed to be the search for it had to commence, but the navigation officer guiding the thing failed to hear the captains order so no searching commenced! Realising this the very angry captain suspended him from duty.

Eventually they got everything working and found the Russian sub hiding under a cargo vessel as they travelled together, then guided in a destroyer to let the Russians know the game was up.

Not exactly confidence inspiring, though I'm sure Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping will have found viewing it entertaining and highly amusing.
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Meanwhile back to the Brexit aftermath .... The following fro the Cork Examiner ..

"Irish exports to Britain continued to surge in July, latest CSO figures show, despite ongoing Brexit upheaval.

The value of goods exports from Ireland to Britain jumped by €567m – or 60% - to just over €1.5bn in July, compared to the same month last year.

This was despite continued Brexit-related uncertainties and upheaval and the fact that Irish exporters’ reliance on the British market has declined since Brexit became a reality.
Across the first seven months of the year, as a whole, the value of Irish exports to Britain jumped by nearly €1.7bn – or 26% - on the same period last year to €8.2bn.
The largest increases in July, according to the CSO, were in the exports of chemicals and related products and machinery and transport equipment.
Imports from Britain into Ireland, however, declined by 32% - or €467m -year-on-year, in July, to €983m.
However, Ireland’s reliance on Britain as a trading partner has cooled considerably. Since Britain left the EU, the country only accounts for 12% of Irish exports.
According to Jarlath O’Keefe, a partner in indirect taxes at Grant Thornton Ireland:
Britain remains an important player in Ireland's export market and this is evidenced by the fact that exports to Britain increased by €567m in July 2021 compared to July 2020.
"However, the previous over-reliance on the British market is no longer the case, given that exports to Britain accounted for 7% of overall exports from Ireland [in the first seven months of the year] which demonstrates that the Irish market is continually sourcing new markets for its products," he said.
Mr O'Keefe noted the confirmation, in the July figures, of a significant increase in cross-border trade on the island of Ireland in 2021 following Brexit.
"This is due, in part, to businesses adjusting their supply chains to avoid the administrative burden associated with importing goods from Britain," he said.
The value of Irish exports, overall, fell 5% - or €736m – year-on-year to just under €12.9bn in July. The main driver in the fall was a substantial decrease in the export of organic chemicals, medical and pharmaceutical products.
For the first seven months of the year, combined, total Irish export value amounted to almost €94bn. This was a decline of 2% on the same period last year.
 
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If they didn't care...

Brazil's health minister shook hands with maskless Boris Johnson at UN before testing positive for Covid

Tom Phillips

More on Brazil’s health minister Marcelo Queiroga testing positive for coronavirus in New York (see 06:25) from Tom Phillips, the Guardian’s Latin America correspondent:

Twenty four hours after meeting with a mask-less Boris Johnson in New York, Brazil’s health minister has announced he has tested positive for Covid and gone into isolation.

Marcelo Queiroga, who sat close to Johnson and the foreign secretary Liz Truss on Monday during their meeting with Brazil’s president Jair Bolsonaro, confirmed his positive test on Twitter alongside a picture of himself wearing a mask.


How long does immunity last after infection and vaccination? And are definite contacts supposed to self-isolate?
For some reason this post made my morning. it cant possibly be because I wish Johnson and truss a big fat dose of delta, because I couldn't be THAT depraved.
 

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Some might be, but perhaps not our ones.

I've been watching the program on Channel 5 about one of our hunter-killer subs, said to be a documentary but it became a better comedy than some said to be that on TV.

It set out on a mission to shadow and protect one of our nuclear missile submarines in the Atlantic, but then a mechanical breakdown meant they had to head back home before even finding our missile sub.

After repairs it set out again on the original mission with a new captain on board, but suddenly was ordered to switch to intercepting a Russian sub heading towards Scottish waters. But then all the toilets on board blocked and an engineer was struggling to clear them so as the hours passed, the 100 crew were having to keep their legs crossed for seven hours with no toilets.

As if that wasn't enough, then the air system failed so no fresh air or toilets and the crew then had to put on gas masks with attached air supplies. Reaching the zone where the Russian sub was supposed to be the search for it had to commence, but the navigation officer guiding the thing failed to hear the captains order so no searching commenced! Realising this the very angry captain suspended him from duty.

Eventually they got everything working and found the Russian sub hiding under a cargo vessel as they travelled together, then guided in a destroyer to let the Russians know the game was up.

Not exactly confidence inspiring, though I'm sure Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping will have found viewing it entertaining and highly amusing.
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Blocked toilets reminds me of a funny tale. Probably told it before...
A quite gentile, polite and friendly acquitance of ours kept finding drains to be blocked. Phoned out plumber who came diligently to remove offending blockage. On his third visit, after a quite difficult task, the lady asked him why her toilet was so inclined.
"Well madam, that there is a 4 inch diameter pipe!"
"So what" came the reply
"well somebody in your house as a 5 inch diameter arse!!"
 

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We are all paying hefty tariff penalties on our energy bills in order to cut the amount of carbon dioxide generated and released into the atmosphere.

Meanwhile, the government is paying eye-watering sums of money to bribe a UK based, US owned company into manufacturing carbon dioxide. As if that wasn’t perverse enough, the business the government is throwing money at used to be British. Like all manufacturing in this country, the company was sold to the US in a skip sale and they closed it. Now the Business Minister, Quasi Coat-Hanger is making the British taxpayer, pay the American company to reopen it.

Biden doesn’t need a trade deal with the U.K., the fuckwit clowncart government running this country will accidentally give the US everything they want for free.
Still top man for humour. " Quasi Coathanger"
Classic, well done my friend! :cool:
 
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Some might be, but perhaps not our ones.

I've been watching the program on Channel 5 about one of our hunter-killer subs, said to be a documentary but it became a better comedy than some said to be that on TV.

It set out on a mission to shadow and protect one of our nuclear missile submarines in the Atlantic, but then a mechanical breakdown meant they had to head back home before even finding our missile sub.

After repairs it set out again on the original mission with a new captain on board, but suddenly was ordered to switch to intercepting a Russian sub heading towards Scottish waters. But then all the toilets on board blocked and an engineer was struggling to clear them so as the hours passed, the 100 crew were having to keep their legs crossed for seven hours with no toilets.

As if that wasn't enough, then the air system failed so no fresh air or toilets and the crew then had to put on gas masks with attached air supplies. Reaching the zone where the Russian sub was supposed to be the search for it had to commence, but the navigation officer guiding the thing failed to hear the captains order so no searching commenced! Realising this the very angry captain suspended him from duty.

Eventually they got everything working and found the Russian sub hiding under a cargo vessel as they travelled together, then guided in a destroyer to let the Russians know the game was up.

Not exactly confidence inspiring, though I'm sure Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping will have found viewing it entertaining and highly amusing.
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I'm glad I retired, that's the sort of call that used to come my way
 
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An EU army... Commanded from Brussels and having 27 commanders in chief. What a great idea. Its formation, well lack of it, demonstrates the very problems it's deployment would create..
 

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An EU army... Commanded from Brussels and having 27 commanders in chief. What a great idea. Its formation, well lack of it, demonstrates the very problems it's deployment would create..
You really do need to get a different source of information than the Daily Express. I find it very tolerable for matters regarding astronomy, and that's about all.
 

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You really do need to get a different source of information than the Daily Express. I find it very tolerable for matters regarding astronomy, and that's about all.
That's the odd thing about The Mail - their science pieces are substantial in length, detailed, and actually quite enjoyable to read.
 
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An EU army... Commanded from Brussels and having 27 commanders in chief. What a great idea.
actually, an EU army is a better idea than NATO.
Its objectives are closer to home than the war in Afghanistan and it's not dominated by any single country.
 
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Zlatan

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actually, an EU army is a better idea than NATO.
Its objectives are closer to home than the war in Afghanistan and it's not dominated by any single country.
But since US contribute around 80% towards Nato operating costs, the EU army has a long long way to go, and hasn't actually started.
Macron giving his seat to EU is the UN Security Council... EU tried deploying a force in 07 but its use was vetoed by a member state. As I said, shows perfectly the problems with an EU army. For it to operate it would require a direct commander, for Nato because of its history and funding that roll falls to US... Who would take charge of an EU army/force.Afghanistan Aukus and the potential reduction of Nato (France leaving?) demonstrate only too clearly some kind of EU force is required.. Could it work? Can't see it under current EU organisation.
 

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My house energy supplier, Avro, have because insolvent this afternoon. This is a shame because they were efficient and easy to deal with. It’s the forth time this has happened to me now.

I was hoping that Symbio would collapse so that I could move without penalty. There’s still time yet.

What a shambles this country is.
 

guerney

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actually, an EU army is a better idea than NATO.
Its objectives are closer to home than the war in Afghanistan and it's not dominated by any single country.
Nation building in Afganistan should have included a comprehensive and well executed decades long plan to extract all of the $trillions in rare earths which exist in Afganistan - Afgan wealth would have gone a long way towards subverting the tribal backward culture there, much has it done to the Arabs with oil. It doesn't seem so, but over the years they've changed quite a lot... they were very similar to the Taliban.
 

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My house energy supplier, Avro, have because insolvent this afternoon. This is a shame because they were efficient and easy to deal with. It’s the forth time this has happened to me now.

I was hoping that Symbio would collapse so that I could move without penalty. There’s still time yet.

What a shambles this country is.
I don't understand why the regulator hasn't upped the cap.
If government puts in place a cap, then it has to put in place the mechanism to deal with the mess that cap generates.
 
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guerney

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I don't understand why the regulator hasn't upped the cap.
If government puts in place a cap, then it has to put in place the mechanism to deal with the mess that cap generates.
This govrnment would lose older voters that they depend upon - they always turn out to vote, when not frozen to death.
 

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