Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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I can’t identify anything new in your post.
Early onset memory loss is a terrible thing, do get it checked, it isn't about saying anything new, but what some on here were in denial of, the dangerous policy of extending vaccination second dose delay giving time for dangerous variants to appear.
And one has, so dangerous the government is suppressing the information
 
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Le bureau du premier ministre aurait fait pression sur l’agence sanitaire pour ôter une page de statistiques sur la propagation du variant Delta dans les écoles du Royaume-Uni.
That's why Jesus H Christ calls them backstabbers, appended with insulting adjectives.

They dare to let us have the truth that our government tries to hide. For once it's a Brexit benefit, while we were an EU member they might have been more circumspect, but now we are out they don't hesitate to tell it as it is.
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China is ending its two child policy, from now on mothers can have a third child if they wish.

Only two other countries in the world have a two child government policy, Vietnam and the UK.

Yes really, George Osborne as Chancellor introduced ours in 2015 and it is still in force. The policy cut benefits for children beyond the first two.

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oldgroaner

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That's why Jesus H Christ calls them backstabbers, appended with insulting adjectives.

They dare to let us have the truth that our government tries to hide. For once it's a Brexit benefit, while we were an EU member they might have been more circumspect, but now we are out they don't hesitate to tell it as it is.
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Shocking bad manners ,what?
 
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Jesus H Christ

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Early onset memory loss is a terrible thing, do get it checked, it isn't about saying anything new, but what some on here were in denial of, the dangerous policy of extending vaccination second dose delay giving time for dangerous variants to appear.
And one has, so dangerous the government is suppressing the information
What information is the government suppressing? What information that you aren’t currently in possession of do you require?
 
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Jesus H Christ

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Les statistiques sur la propagation du variant Delta dans les écoles du Royaume-Uni?
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It’s spreading like wildfire because there is zero social distancing, sanitising is nonexistent and the kid’s year groups are mixing before and after school.

Now, as much as any time during this pandemic you need to be vigilant and don’t take any silly risks like going to a school, pub, theatre or mass gathering. You’ll get the Injun Coronavirus if you do.

Regardless of what Boris Johnson says: Keep off the streets, **** the economy, save lives.

See, it’s out there. Even I understand. What else would you like to know?
 
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Now, as much as any time during this pandemic you need to be vigilant and don’t take any silly risks like going to a school, pub, theatre or mass gathering.
I suppose that ideally meant not gathering with lots of others at vaccination centres or mass testing facilities.

I am serious, perhaps much better to remain isolated without vaccination or testing, especially if in a very low risk group.
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I suppose that ideally meant not gathering with lots of others at vaccination centres or mass testing facilities.

I am serious, perhaps much better to remain isolated without vaccination or testing, especially if in a very low risk group.
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Yes flecc..that was the point I previously made. The mass vaccination centres make good publicity shots and great infection sites. The way to do this thing is or was small groups ,in local facilities .. local halls, class rooms . In fact the location where I had mine was ideal.
I don't think there is a value in testing any more. All the resources should be devoted to vaccination. I am sure there is a competition for resources between these activities. .. be it personnel, reagents, PPE,. We do need to do the full sequencing for monitoring the variant population. My daughter is doing that work.
 

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Yes flecc..that was the point I previously made. The mass vaccination centres make good publicity shots and great infection sites. The way to do this thing is or was small groups ,in local facilities .. local halls, class rooms . In fact the location where I had mine was ideal.
I don't think there is a value in testing any more. All the resources should be devoted to vaccination. I am sure there is a competition for resources between these activities. .. be it personnel, reagents, PPE,. We do need to do the full sequencing for monitoring the variant population. My daughter is doing that work.
But there is money to be made in testing, Johnson's half brother has joined one of the companies doing it!
 
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The way to do this thing is or was small groups ,in local facilities .. local halls, class rooms . In fact the location where I had mine was ideal.
But even better, no vaccination so no grouping at all for someone like myself in continuous isolation, only communicating electronically. The point I was making. It only takes one in close proximity to infect, the size of a group across a large stadium is immaterial.
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But even better, no vaccination so no grouping at all for someone like myself in continuous isolation, only communicating electronically. The point I was making. It only takes one in close proximity to infect, the size of a group across a large stadium is immaterial.
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Except unless you are living in the middle of Bodmin Moor , you are not isolated . Yes it takes only one to infect, but with large crowds , the probability of having that one increases ,and also the severity of the impact and subsequent infection rate increases.
Having large stadia requires people to get there, mingle for a while get the shot and then lurk around for a while and then disperse, travel home and get or give the infection. In my case, I walked down, walked up an empty staircase, sat in a large room with about 5 other people each socially distant, wore mask, went unto other room sat down, injected, by 2 masked people , sat in other room ,even larger with about 5 other people for 15 minutes and walked home. The process would not have been faster in a bigger centre, since all the paperwork has to be done.
 

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Except unless you are living in the middle of Bodmin Moor , you are not isolated . Yes it takes only one to infect, but with large crowds , the probability of having that one increases ,and also the severity of the impact and subsequent infection rate increases.
Having large stadia requires people to get there, mingle for a while get the shot and then lurk around for a while and then disperse, travel home and get or give the infection. In my case, I walked down, walked up an empty staircase, sat in a large room with about 5 other people each socially distant, wore mask, went unto other room sat down, injected, by 2 masked people , sat in other room ,even larger with about 5 other people for 15 minutes and walked home. The process would not have been faster in a bigger centre, since all the paperwork has to be done.
The pandemic is a 100% hoax
 
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You again?
After posting in this vein incessantly to 29th March, Polly followed with just twice on 12th April and now twice today in June. So he's just an occasional visitor now, perhaps realising at last that we aren't taking any notice.

Either that or the long gap from April 12th to June 6th was due to him recovering from Covid 19.
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After posting in this vein incessantly to 29th March, Polly followed with just twice on 12th April and now twice today in June. So he's just an occasional visitor now, perhaps realising at last that we aren't taking any notice.

Either that or the long gap from April 12th to June 6th was due to him recovering from Covid 19.
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The pandemic is a 100% hoax
 
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oldgroaner

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The pandemic is a 100% hoax
Your posts are an epidemic.
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They are a bit different in Chesterfield, look at the Church!

From Wikipedia
"The spire was added in the 14th-century tower in about 1362, and is 228 feet (69 m) high from the ground.[8][9] It is both twisted and leaning, twisting 45 degrees and leaning 9 ft 6 in (2.9 m) from its true centre. The leaning characteristic was initially suspected to be the result of the absence of skilled craftsmen (the Black Death had been gone only twelve years before the spire's completion), insufficient cross bracing, and the use of unseasoned timber.
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It is now believed that the twisting of the spire was caused by the lead that covers the spire. The lead causes this twisting phenomenon, because when the sun shines during the day the south side of the tower heats up, causing the lead there to expand at a greater rate than that of the north side of the tower, resulting in unequal expansion and contraction. This was compounded by the weight of the lead (approximately 33 tonnes) which the spire's bracing was not originally designed to bear. Using unseasoned wood could have contributed to a smaller extent. As wood seasons, or dries, it twists and distorts. Although this distortion is generally accounted for in the construction process, distortion still occurs and varies depending on the type of lumber used and how it is cut."

It should have been the icon for Brexit :cool:

Oh and just have to share this local legend
"In common folklore, there are numerous explanations as to why the spire is twisted.[10] One well-established legend goes that a virgin once married in the church, and the church was so surprised that the spire turned around to look at the bride, and continues that if another virgin marries in the church, the spire will return to true again. "
 
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