Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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You make it sound like the viruses hold strategy meetings to decide upon their next tactic. Would this be via Zoom or is it safe for viruses to meet face to face in a convention centre?

You are being a knob-head. Stop.
Actually it's called Evolution, it doesn't always work in the direction of benefitting humanity.
Otherwise how can you explain Tory voters with the additional congenital disadvantage of Lemming type instinctive drives?:D
 

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As proof of I'm not sure quite what we have this
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Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws.

The legislation covering COVID-19 restrictions includes a ban on leaving the UK without a reasonable excuse - with the hefty fine for those breaking the rule.


The new rules will also mean protests will be considered a permitted exception to the ban on mass gatherings.

Does anyone else wonder how the hell you can ban protests and say they are a permitted exception at one and the same time?
To me what you have written sounds like mass gatherings will not be permitted (a music festival / large group meeting for a booze up).

However, if people gather for the purpose of a legitimate protest, that may be allowed.
 

oldgroaner

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To me what you have written sounds like mass gatherings will not be permitted (a music festival / large group meeting for a booze up).

However, if people gather for the purpose of a legitimate protest, that may be allowed.
I think you may have sailed past the point I was trying to make at flank speed in your usual casual manner.
Oh well.
 

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After all the chance that one from how many billion sperm would fertilise an egg and result in Johnson wasn't more than a chance in many billions, across the Atlantic too, you can add the odds to he being brought here, and then even less probable there would be enough daft beggars among 50 millions would vote for him.
Yet here we are and vaccination against the Covid disaster he made worse being used as Cover the his Brexit disaster.

It's almost enough for an atheist like me to ponder whether isn't an evil god at work
extracting the urine out of humanity.

My experience in life includes high spots like being told that a prostate cancer biopsy only has adverse effects on one person in 20,000.
Then ending up at deaths door with sepsis and in hospital for 11 days before I escaped their clutches and staggered home.

From this I had an epiphany that in fact the laws of odds had somehow inverted and what was previously been regarded as nigh on impossible
Was now pretty much a dead cert .
"Laws of odds?" more like the Pirate code really
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Much of statistics seems inappropriately applied, to me.

Imagine there is a one in a hundred bad outcome from some health intervention (e.g. vaccination, minor operation,etc.), it tends to be put in terms which such each subject has a 1:100 chance for each person undergoing it. Whereas the reality is that a few of the hundred will have a much higher risk, and the rest much lower.

Sometimes we could even identify the individuals most at risk before the intervention. Sometimes we could in theory do so, but don't have the appropriate techniques. (And I am not even going down the path of people who are already obviously ill.) Perhaps a whole genome analysis? Perhaps a single blood or urine test?

Indeed, all too often we do not even collect the appropriate statistics to help us do so in future.
 

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Cern experiment hints at new force of nature
Experts reveal ‘cautious excitement’ over unstable particles that fail to decay as standard model suggests

Whereas we have long known that the government is chock full of people who have failed to decay as the standard model of politics would have predicted.

Can't say I am excited, though. More angry and disappointed.
 
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Sir Charles Benedict Ainslie CBE (born 5 February 1977) is a British competitive sailor. Ainslie is the most successful sailor in Olympic history.

He chucks his wastes out of portholes.
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He, d have to be awfully clever, AC75's don't have portholes. Mind you even if they did I doubt Mr Ainsley would get much through at 50 plus mph..
 

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How Pathetic can this Brexit Religion get?


Which Tory Donor has been spaffed a couple of Billion to supply the flags on the basis of telling cheap towels for wiping down muddy dogs?
What constitutes a government building?

In Wales, things like castles (at least our local one) already fly the union flag - and the flag of Wales. Every day.

Are we now expected to see flags on hospitals, job centres, police stations, railway stations, abutments, air shafts, piers, storage units, underpasses, individual floors of high rise blocks, garages, 9 & 12 Downing Street, ... (There is a whole website of government properties.)

And a reminder, nothing drags the tone of self-promotion down more than flying shredded, faded flags and not hoisting and lowering them at the right times.
 
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You make it sound like the viruses hold strategy meetings to decide upon their next tactic. Would this be via Zoom or is it safe for viruses to meet face to face in a convention centre?

You are being a knob-head. Stop.
Do you make a hobby out of being an eejit?.
On the contrary it is blind chance. Every time the virus gets into a cell and starts replication, only a small fraction of the output is identical with the input, .. that is 100% identical. More are 98%, and less and less have more defects until a few are just inert blobs of organic matter. It is these 90% +identical which are the worrying ones . They may contain enough of the RNA replication mechanism, to successfully infect another cell type, and the cell types might be more plentiful , or have lethal consequences. ..and if so that strain multiplies. No intelligence required .. In a way similar to a poster changing their name and becoming more obnoxious with each generation of name change. Say for instance if that Polly character were to increase their word count and make complete sentences .so more people responded . It wouldn't denote intelligence , just evolution,but would be seen as success.
 
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He, d have to be awfully clever, AC75's don't have portholes. Mind you even if they did I doubt Mr Ainsley would get much through at 50 plus mph..
Of course, he'd need to be sailing something very much bigger and probably much older to have any opening portholes.
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Of course, he'd need to be sailing something very much bigger and probably much older to have any opening portholes.
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Agreed, on something, at last. Development of yachts over last 15 years or so has probably been more than previous 2000..
I never thought I, d see 75 foot yachts doing 60 mph... And not specific speed ones at that.. Can do it on either tack... AC 75 is absolutely incredible.
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Agreed, on something, at last. Development of yachts over last 15 years or so has probably been more than previous 2000..
I never thought I, d see 75 foot yachts doing 60 mph... And not specific speed ones at that.. Can do it on either tack... AC 75 is absolutely incredible.
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Indeed. But whether they can still legitimately be called yachts or even boats comes into question since they are often hydroplanes, a different class of vehicle.

One for the purists to argue over.
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Does anyone else wonder how the hell you can ban protests and say they are a permitted exception at one and the same time?
Political expediency once again.

We can't be seen to be banning citizens protests at the same time as criticising Russia for doing the same. So we have to pretend to permit them while allowing the police to beat up any protestors.
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Political expediency once again.

We can't be seen to be banning citizens protests at the same time as criticising Russia for doing the same. So we have to pretend to permit them while allowing the police to beat up any protestors.
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It's exactly the same situation where the UK Government can ban vaccine exports by not banning exports, and citing commercial contracts , whereas those contracts had export limitations built in at Government insistence
 

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