Hurrah. Better late......EU drugs regulator approves AstraZeneca vaccine
Covid: EU approves AstraZeneca vaccine amid supply row
The EU approves AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine, but accuses the firm of breaking supply commitments.www.bbc.co.uk
Brexit, for once some facts.
- Thread starter flecc
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It’s made in the U.K. possession is 9/10 ths as they say. Anyway, the U.K. has played a blinder and we will have so much vaccine that we plan to give it away to developing countries.
The U.K. being an outward looking benevolent nation can realise that it’s not just about vaccinations here. For us to be safe long term, as much of the world population as possible needs to be vaccinated. The EU would be wise to take a lesson from our lead on this.
Mark Drakeford was very clear that the decision is contingent on how cases/infections change between now and then.
Was actually a pleasant surprise to hear him on R4 - not just Welsh stations.
Amazing that only a month after the real Brexit you make a statement like that. "They, ll be bombing us for it soon."
There must be a moral there somewhere
But little chance you'll see it
Let's see now I recall Flecc and I saying words to the effect that Brexit will turn friends into adversaries
It has! note that the Government is being neutral and letting the Tory Rags wind the public up.
Great smokescreen especially when the Government refuses to reveal the stock of doses it has for security reasons.
Think for a moment if they already have enough, what is to stop them using this dispute to smokescreen the Brexit failures?
Quite a windfall eh? when we have nothing at stake..
Outward looking benevolent nation?
Even our own citizens are fair game
The UN has just told is we have no sovereignty over Diego Garcia
This is what WE did to the people who lived there
Even if they revealed quantities, there is more to it. It is at least conceivable that we have all the actual vaccine we need. But each batch needs to be checked by the MHRA, "finished" into vials, distributed. Further, they would want to have enough to cover contingencies such as lorry loads getting destroyed (crash, freezer failure, etc.). Only when we have all had it might they be willing to say how much they had.
Even then, we might go straight into Mk II versions even before everyone has had Mk I. (So long as Mk II includes the effectiveness of Mk I.)
It's the EU that has taken the lead, they said at the outset that they intend to work towards the vaccines being available everywhere in the world.
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Get off your high horse OG...
EU with regards vaccine is a complete and utter shambles, yet you won't admit it.
With regards EU bombing us... Obviously a joke but look which government has started down the conflict route... Germany and EU have both made inflammatory statements. And, yes, our government have not made comments, they don't need to. EU is doing it for them and by the way the Guardian has probably been most scathing of EU... Hardly a Tory rag..
EU could block millions of Covid vaccine doses from entering UK
European commission says new mechanism will give national regulators power to refuse exports
www.theguardian.com
EU want vaccine distributed world wide but ban exports??? How does that work??
And the government we, ve all criticised the most, good old USA, under procedures put in under Trump is managing to vaccinate approximately 1.5 million people daily. (in a population of around 320 million). The EU with a population of around 440 million hasn't managed even a quarter of that daily number yet. And you are trying to say EU is well organised. You must be joking. Trump and his administration has wiped floor with EU on this aspect. Beaten by a Trump administration. Come on OG... EU are pathetic.
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As in what difference would it make? When all the stocks were decanted into the UK?. My understanding is that in its rush to start their program the UK bypassed the risk and loaded it onto the UK taxpayer. The EU by requiring EMA validation did not . I am not suggesting that the UK position was wrong..just risky. Basically production has to ramp up everywhere to meet the need, and had the EU gone a month earlier, we still would have no more product today
You are doing it again, will you never learn?
The EU isn't a country so won't be vaccinating anyone, so how could it compete with any country?
At the moment it is a only a co-ordinating organisation for its member countries, but has ambitions to one day be a single federal country of Europe. But it is impeded in that by all those in Europe who lack the vision to see how much better that federation could be than the chaos of Europe's history, personified by Brexit.
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It's all they have in their toolbox thanks to those with anti EU feelings.
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In other words just a lot of noise and good intentions but ultimately utterly pointless.
And by the way Flecc. EU has coordinated EU wide vaccination purchase. It's exactly why they are all in same mess. What's highest vaccinated EU country??? Just remind me... Look on worldwide vaccine rankings.. Look what EU countries have in common... All low on list..
EU in U-turn over move to control vaccine exports to Northern Ireland
European commission cites ‘error’ hours after proposal caused anger on both sides of Irish border
www.theguardian.com
EU started this conflict. As reported in that Tory rag.. The Guardian...
Probably.
If EU don't come good on Vaccine front could mark beginning of end..
No worries on that front, given the drug companies greed.
They'll go for the minimum 2.3 billion doses the EU represents, with the follow up of the EU member's largesse for poorer countries.
That's why the USA you mentioned as doing well, nothing to do with Trump, just size.
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I’m pleased the EU has backtracked on its act of aggressive hostility with regards to reneging on the Northern Ireland Brexit agreement. It didn’t take long for their treachery to surface. It’s quite incredible that the EU were prepared to impose a hard border on Ireland after the song and dance they made about it during the Brexit negotiations. If ever proof were needed that Ireland were just dancing in exchange for Euro being pushed up their bottoms, this is it. How humiliating, I mean, have some dignity.
I’m pretty sure we’ll do ok with our vaccination programme regardless of what the EU does. Once we are on top of the virus, we can rise above the EU’s unfortunate behaviour and help them. It’s in the interest of the entire global population to sort this out. Fortunately, the U.K. is one of the leading nations and we can use our expertise and experience to help.
I’m pretty sure we’ll do ok with our vaccination programme regardless of what the EU does. Once we are on top of the virus, we can rise above the EU’s unfortunate behaviour and help them. It’s in the interest of the entire global population to sort this out. Fortunately, the U.K. is one of the leading nations and we can use our expertise and experience to help.
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Jabs here following about the expected course. I'm 74 and have just had an invite, booked for 2nd Feb. About a mile away (3 GP practices got together, so not quite as close as my own GP), very pleasant e-bike ride.
Any hope it will immunise me from having to do tax returns?
Any hope it will immunise me from having to do tax returns?